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Title: Solar and battery monitoring
Post by: tedeboy on April 24, 2021, 11:47:06 am
Dumb question alert 😆

Does the solar system on new rigs provide a battery monitor system built-in or is that an aftermarket add on?

I've never had solar.
Thanks
Title: Re: Solar and battery monitoring
Post by: Mike Coachman on April 24, 2021, 12:06:37 pm
It’s an add-on.
Title: Re: Solar and battery monitoring
Post by: tedeboy on April 24, 2021, 12:14:38 pm
It’s an add-on.
Thanks.

I'm seriously considering this one:

Thornwave Labs (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075828HGS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_DY44TG3X2DSTXPS46CJ3)
Title: Re: Solar and battery monitoring
Post by: Andy Baird on April 24, 2021, 01:26:41 pm
Since voltage alone is not a useful indication of a battery's state of charge, to get any useful information out of the Thornwave unit, you'll need to add an external shunt. A good quality one will run you $75 or so. (I wouldn't waste time on cheapies.) That brings your cost up to $200, and you're getting a product from a not exactly well known manufacturer.

As an alternative, you could get a $131 Victron SmartShunt (https://www.amazon.com/Victron-SmartShunt-500AMP-Bluetooth-Battery/dp/B0856PHNLX/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=500A+shunt&qid=1619284633&s=electronics&sr=1-5). It combines shunt, monitoring, and Bluetooth connectivity in a single compact unit.

However, a purely shunt-based monitor isn't the best available solution, because it will lose accuracy as your batteries lose capacity over time. (And should you ever upgrade to LiFePO4, it's useless). The best currently available solution I know of is a $220 Balmar SG200 (https://www.amazon.com/CDI-Electronics-SG200-Battery-Monitor/dp/B07KGSS6DV/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=balmar+sg200&qid=1619285108&s=electronics&sr=1-1). There's more detail in the SG200 thread.
Title: Re: Solar and battery monitoring
Post by: tedeboy on April 24, 2021, 01:30:51 pm
To get any useful information out of it, you'll need to add an external shunt. A good quality one will run you $75 or so. (I wouldn't waste time on cheapies.) That brings your cost up to $200, and you're getting a product from a not exactly well known manufacturer.

As an alternative, you could get a $131 Victron SmartShunt (https://www.amazon.com/Victron-SmartShunt-500AMP-Bluetooth-Battery/dp/B0856PHNLX/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=500A+shunt&qid=1619284633&s=electronics&sr=1-5). It combines shunt, monitoring, and Bluetooth connectivity in a single compact unit.

However, a purely shunt-based monitor isn't the best available solution, because it will lose accuracy as your batteries lose capacity over time. (And should you ever upgrade to LiFePO4, it's useless). The best currently available solution I know of is a Balmar SG200 (https://www.amazon.com/CDI-Electronics-SG200-Battery-Monitor/dp/B07KGSS6DV/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=balmar+sg200&qid=1619285108&s=electronics&sr=1-1). There's more detail in the SG200 thread.

My bad. I thought the shunt was included in the Thornwave.

Found this:

Thornwave Labs Integrated Shunt (https://www.thornwave.com/products/powermon-5s-bluetooth-battery-monitor-dc-power-meter-with-integrated-500a-shunt)