Someone in a recent thread (can’t find it now) mentioned that they had just been sent an order package for a new LD. It appears LD is bypassing the 2020 models and going straight to 2021! I’m wondering if the person who received the order package also received pricing info?
Here are the base prices for the 2021 models on the new Ford Chassis:
All 24' floor plans: $106,750 w/$3500 deposit.
All 27' floor Plans: $112,250 w/$4000 deposit
All 31' floorplans: $ 123,500 w/$4500 deposit
Attached is the pricing for the standard options. I had four additions for extra $$.
Someone in a recent thread (can’t find it now) mentioned that they had just been sent an order package for a new LD. It appears LD is bypassing the 2020 models and going straight to 2021! I’m wondering if the person who received the order package also received pricing info?
I think we can assume that since any model ordered now will be delivered in 2021, thus we are seeing 2021 prices.
I just pinned the price list so it will be more visible.
Chris
Thank you Mike and Chris! It was only a matter of time before all LD models would have a base price over $100K. The price increase on all models is substantially more this year than in years past!
I think we can assume that since any model ordered now will be delivered in 2021, thus we are seeing 2021 prices.
I just pinned the price list so it will be more visible.
Chris
Spoke to Todd a couple of months ago and he said build time is around 5 months..... did you mean anyone getting on the WAITING list now will take delivery in 2021?
Spoke to Todd a couple of months ago and he said build time is around 5 months..... did you mean anyone getting on the WAITING list now will take delivery in 2021?
Perhaps someone who has just been through the buying process can elaborate, but I understand the time from getting on the waiting list and then the down payment build list is around 18 months, which means the answer is yes to your question.
Chris
{I think we can assume that since any model ordered now will be delivered in 2021, thus we are seeing 2021 prices.}
It was Ford, not Lazy Daze that jumped over the 2020 model with their newly updated 2021 E450. So there will not be any 2020 LD coaches. The model year of the LD uses the Ford chassis model year. Todd said we should receive our 2021 coach sometime this summer depending when the 2021 chassis arrives.
Going by our experience of joining the waiting list in January '19 (or maybe Feb.), then receiving our order package on the 19th of Dec., and If the chassis we specified (with the Ford options we wanted) is delivered sometime in Jan. 2020, that falls in line with what Todd said about the coach delivery timeframe. This also will have to take into account how many other orders are ahead of us. I know of one other person (a LD friend) that received his order package at the same time as ours. It will happen when it does. In the meantime I have a lot of projects to complete (maybe) before I can think about flying to CA.
It was Ford, not Lazy Daze that jumped over the 2020 model with their newly updated 2021 E450. So there will not be any 2020 LD coaches.
Please note my signature line. 😁
{I think we can assume that since any model ordered now will be delivered in 2021, thus we are seeing 2021 prices.}
It was Ford, not Lazy Daze that jumped over the 2020 model with their newly updated 2021 E450. So there will not be any 2020 LD coaches. The model year of the LD uses the Ford chassis model year. Todd said we should receive our 2021 coach sometime this summer depending when the 2021 chassis arrives.
Car/truck manufacturers have be doing this tick for years. That is one of the reasons in California there are two dates on a car title - one the year brought and the other the year manufactured. <smile> Or at least that was the way it was when I lived there.
glen
"...in California there are two dates on a car title - one the year brought and the other the year manufactured."
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It's true that the chassis/body build date is not necessarily the same as the model year date on one's registration, but only one date, the 'model' date (listed as 'year') appears on California registration forms.
Thanks for the reminder.
Chris
2013 MB in Sandy Eggo:
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2013-Lazy-Daze-27-MID-BATH-5010749397 (https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2013-Lazy-Daze-27-MID-BATH-5010749397)
about 10K difference between 2019 and 2021 LD price. i checked cutaway prices and for 2019, it is around 34K (2019 Ford® E-Series Cutaway | Models & Specs | Ford.com (https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/e-series-cutaway/models/)) and for 2021 comparable advertised number is 44K (Build and price your 2021 Ford E-Series Cutaway (https://www.westviewford.ca/build-and-price/2021-Ford-E_Series_Cutaway.html?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=organic))
so additional 10K from 2019 to 2021 is going to Ford and not to LD.
PS: numbers are from different source so perhaps this comparison is meaningless ..
so additional 10K from 2019 to 2021 is going to Ford and not to LD.
PS: numbers are from different source so perhaps this comparison is meaningless ..
Ford used the V10 engine since 1997, recovering their investments many times over and allowing them to sell the chassis at a reasonable price.
With the new engine and transmission combination, along with the advance electronics, Ford once again needs to recoup the development money.
I need to drive a new V-8 LD to see if the increase in power and drivability is worth the increase .
Larry
Ford used the V10 engine since 1997, recovering their investments many times over and allowing them to sell the chassis at a reasonable price.
With the new engine and transmission combination, along with the advance electronics, Ford once again needs to recoup the development money.
I need to drive a new V-8 LD to see if the increase in power and drivability is worth the increase .
Larry
Please report back when you do!
about 10K difference between 2019 and 2021 LD price. i checked cutaway prices and for 2019, it is around 34K (2019 Ford® E-Series Cutaway | Models & Specs | Ford.com (https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/e-series-cutaway/models/)) and for 2021 comparable advertised number is 44K (Build and price your 2021 Ford E-Series Cutaway (https://www.westviewford.ca/build-and-price/2021-Ford-E_Series_Cutaway.html?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=organic))
so additional 10K from 2019 to 2021 is going to Ford and not to LD.
PS: numbers are from different source so perhaps this comparison is meaningless ..
Ford dealer for 2021 pricing info is in Canada .... With current conversion rate, I am not sure any more if there is any price increase from Ford. Not a waste though, I got some insight on new features.
Spoke to Todd a couple of months ago and he said build time is around 5 months..... did you mean anyone getting on the WAITING list now will take delivery in 2021?
Hi,
For us the total time (waiting list time plus build time for a TK) was 16 months. We got on the list in late July of 2018 and picked up our LD Nov. 2019. Hope this helps.
Glen, Carfax has the same info (all states). Manufacturer year and purchase date. So it is clear when the dealer warranty expires. It is also shows when it was received by the dealer and if they transferred to to another dealer.
I found it to be handy information for used cars to see how old the vehicle really is (was it given to the dealer in Nov the year before the model year or Nov of the model year - a year difference in vehicle age).
Jane
2000 Lazy Daze 30' Island Bed for sale in Phoenix/Mesa ($12,000):
2000 lazy days class C motorhome - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/rvs/d/mesa-2000-lazy-days-class-motorhome/7051587122.html)
There are several LD's offered on the Phoenix Craigslist which I find not so interesting. This one, however, might be worth being checked out for some.
Klaus
2019 TK in Arizona:
2019 Lazy Daze 24.5 TK - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/rvs/d/buckeye-2019-lazy-daze-245-tk/7045286062.html)
This added information may help our other members:
I actually saw Christian's TK in Buckeye, Arizona at the end of October as my wife, Karen and I were on our way to visit family in Arizona. This is/was a very nice, clean unit when we saw it. We were the first to see it, I believe, and I thought he would have sold it quickly. He told me later that he had taken it off the market to take another trip before relisting it again. Christian leaves Az in the heat of the summers and travels in the RV. As I recall, this was his first LazyDaze and he purchased due to the LD's reputation on build quality. Reason given to me for selling: "Great RV and build quality, but just a little too small." He told me that he was looking to purchase a 35 foot diesel pusher.
Gary
Gary, now that you mention it I do recall seeing this unit earlier this year. I remember it was priced at $100,000 which I thought was a bit too high for a used unit, even considering the upgrades. The pricing is more favorable now.
I ordered my LD on January 10, 2020. A Green RB, maple cabinetry, Mollusk (grey tweed) upholstery with Ford driver assist package, 2nd solar panel, backup camera, upgraded mirrors, and 2 extra 12v outlets. I told Todd I have to take delivery after the end of August and that is what he put on the order form for approximate delivery.
There was some question about model year from y'all. Ford has skipped the model year 2020 designation and LD is also designating its chassis and registration years as 2021.
I've attached scans of the 2021 pricing/features sheets and compared them to the 2019 ones. I checked the parts that are different from the last ones.
The engine is changed from 6.8L V-10, 305HP/420 ft.lb torque at 3250 RPM
to 7.3L V-8 Premium engine with 350HP/468 ft.lb torque at 3900RPM
and they added an auxiliary transmission cooler to the 6-speed transmission
There is an optional package of driver-assist tech.
TPMS is Ford factory installed.
Alternator goes from 155amp to 210amp.
There is no longer any carpet on the floor (confirmed by Todd), even in the cab. House has 5" wide linoleum plank flooring, wood grain grey/tan combination. Cab has "easy maintenance insulated rubber cab flooring"
Vent fans are upgraded and have remote controls. I asked about Fantastic Fan not being listed on the spec sheet and Todd said they were bought by Atwood who was bought by Dometic, so they're all the same now.
Solar panel is now listed as 115w
Kitchen sink is stainless, which I think was new in 2019.
Linda B
And here's me after committing to spend $116,000 in 8 months. :) :o
I ordered my LD on January 10, 2020.
Brava, Linda, and thanks for sharing all this important buying information for our members. This thread is pinned for easy future reference.
Chris
Great info, Linda; thanks for sharing! Interesting that, with the chassis and other changes from 2019, none of the OCCC figures changed.
Am I the only one, or does your stomach feel sick when spending that much money? ;D
Am I the only one, or does your stomach feel sick when spending that much money? ;D
Oh yeah, all excited, but still queasy. Right now it's easier having just conceived her, but when the baby is born the big money comes.
Ford used the V10 engine since 1997, recovering their investments many times over and allowing them to sell the chassis at a reasonable price.
With the new engine and transmission combination, along with the advance electronics, Ford once again needs to recoup the development money.
I need to drive a new V-8 LD to see if the increase in power and drivability is worth the increase .
Larry
Interesting article on the new pushrod V8. I really like our 460 for low end torque. This seems similar but modern.
New Ford V8 (https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a26306469/ford-super-duty-73-v8-engine-details-specs/)
Interesting article on the new pushrod V8. I really like our 460 for low end torque. This seems similar but modern.
New Ford V8 (https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a26306469/ford-super-duty-73-v8-engine-details-specs/)
Nice article. Wish the new engine was being paired with the 10-speed transmission. Perhaps in the future?
I believe you may be correct Greg. However, I do know when I saw it the price was the same as it is now. Christian added a massive beefed up rear hitch area because he tows a large jeep for off-road use.
Best,
Gary
LindaB,
Can you tell us what the price of the optional Smart Driver-Assist Technology Package is? Those are some nice features that I really enjoy in my Subaru!
According to an attachment earlier in this trail ... $1300
LindaB,
Can you tell us what the price of the optional Smart Driver-Assist Technology Package is? Those are some nice features that I really enjoy in my Subaru!
Will the front end of the 2021 models have a face lift? Haven't seen any pics if so...
Doesn't look like it to me.
(https://fordauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Ford-E-Series-1.jpg)
According to an attachment earlier in this trail ... $1300
before deciding on LazyDaze I spent lot of time researching Sprinter based RV (Sportsmobile) and Tiger. for Sprinter, these advance safety features are pretty expensive and $1300 look too good to be true compared to Sprinter option prices. just fyi ...
Thanks, Azam! $1300 seems very reasonable to me as well. I can tell you the emergency braking feature in my Outback has probably prevented an accident twice so far, both times in congested freeway driving, so I would gladly pay it! Not to mention the adaptive cruise control feature is awesome!
Hi Ted. Yes indeed, Linda ordered the second panel, (mentioned on the second line, first paragraph). With two 115 watt panels, for a total of 230, that gives a good start. With a 27' RB, there should be enough roof space to expand that to another two panels and 460 watts. I don't think LD offers LiFeO4 batteries yet. Are you in the planning stages? I'm not getting any younger, my next LD might be my last. Maybe a 2022 MB. RonB
We have a ton of equity in our home that is paid off. Running the numbers.
We love our '95TK but need more room for those 4 month trips.
Good to hear I can order a second panel.
I'm 63 and my wife is 60 so this would be our last motorhome I think.
We like to take 3 to 4 month trips and littler ones throughout the year.
Nice article. Wish the new engine was being paired with the 10-speed transmission. Perhaps in the future?
Talked with my mechanic buddy.
He said the TorqShift transmission is bulletproof and he said he'd not want the 10 speed in its place.
We discussed the new 7.3L coming. He's anxiously awaiting it also but concerned about buying the first year until real world testing.
Will the front end of the 2021 models have a face lift? Haven't seen any pics if so...
I found two pictures of the interior cab. When I ordered, I asked Todd if I could get the grey interior. That was another of his nope, we don't do thats. So the interior will be beige as always.
I'm curious what the two temp gauges are for. Engine and tranny?
Linda
P.S. Here's the link for those pictures. You can zoom better on the web site, but it loaded extremely slow when I looked at them.
All pictures of 2021 Ford E-450 Super Duty Cutaway Van Release Truck '2019 (https://en.wheelsage.org/ford/e-series/v/ford_e-450_super_duty_cab_chassis/pictures/)
Driver assist features would be primary reason if we ever upgrade from our 2003MB. Everytime I take a road trip in a car with adaptive cruise and lane keep assist, I think about how much nicer RV trips would be with those options.
For those with a Mid-Bath, it's possible to fit one large panel in the space forward of the A/C and behind the overcab vent. It's a beautiful spot and having 1 panel close to the fridge vent simplifies everything. I have a single 12V 200W panel, but I think it's possible to get a single 400W higher voltage panel in the same space these days. That would pair nicely with a MPPT controller for a simple but efficient setup.
Rich
'03 MB in NC
I found two pictures of the interior cab. When I ordered, I asked Todd if I could get the grey interior. That was another of his nope, we don't do thats. So the interior will be beige as always.
I guess I never realized that the cab interiors are always beige. Thanks for pointing that out. Good thing I like beige!
My '99 cab interior is a mix of gray, dark and light. The pictures of the new Ford 2021 interior look like the same colors to me. Darker gray for the dash, and lighter than mine, but still gray, on the door panels. The seats also look to be a 'Dove' gray. LD usually has their own seat upholstery, to match the color palette chosen for the interior. I don't see beige, a brownish color. Maybe it's me? RonB
"I'm curious what the two temp gauges are for. Engine and tranny?"
Sure looks that way. See blowup below, taken from the photos of the new dashboard that LindaB linked to.
And this looks very similar to the dashboard-cluster display on recent F-series pickups. If so, there's a good chance that you could customize the displays using the FORScan utility for Windows (https://forscan.org/home.html). For example, I programmed my F-250 to display the actual temperatures above the standard uncalibrated gauges.
For example, I programmed my F-250 to display the actual temperatures above the standard uncalibrated gauges.
Ooh, I'm going to have to ask more about this when I get my LD. I seem to have trouble remembering if normal is half way up or a third up on my temperature gauge on my car. An actual number would make that so much easier.
Thanks
Linda
Sure looks that way. And this looks very similar to the dashboard-cluster display on recent F-series pickups. If so, there's a good chance that you could customize the displays using the FORScan utility for Windows. For example, I programmed my F-250 to display the actual temperatures above the standard uncalibrated gauges.
Andy, better get some gas soon! 😁
I see that the way I worded my post made it sound as if that dashboard photo was from my 2019 Ford pickup. It wasn't; it was an enlarged version of the new Ford van dashboard photo that Linda had linked to. I revised my previous post to make that clear, and added a link to the FORScan software (https://forscan.org/home.html). Don't worry, I won't run out of gas! I never let mine get that low.
FORScan is not particularly user-friendly, and the Ford computer settings it can change are complicated and in many cases obscure. Although it requires Windows and I'm a Mac/iPhone/iPad user, I was able to run it from an under-$100 generic Windows 10 tablet that I bought for the purpose. It wasn't fun, but I was able to tweak a few things that annoyed me--mainly, less beeping and chiming.
FORScan is a more or less volunteer effort, and it will probably be some time before it's updated to work with the new vans. If you're computer-savvy and brave, it's worth keeping in mind. Note that in addition to a Windows 10 device to run the FORScan software, you'll need a USB- or Wi-Fi-capable ODBII dongle to let it communicate with the vehicle.
(Note: in addition to the FORScan Windows program, there are also FORScan apps for iOS and Android. However, these are readout-only apps; they don't let you make any changes to settings.)
I a this baby blue 2008 on craiglist Atlanta .posted 4 days ago..looks clean and well maintained. GARAGE KEPT...
If only it had been a 24 foot....sigh!
Hi Franram. We have an ongoing thread for posting non-member classified ads here:
Non-member Classified Listings for 2020 (https://www.lazydazeowners.com/index.php?topic=34482.0)
Also, please provide a link to the ad as it makes it easier for those looking to buy. Thanks!
I don't see where the mileage is listed in the ad Also I would think 100K are a lot of miles I am not familiar with this engine
Is the LD in the OP's post this one?
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2008-Lazy-Daze-27-MID-BATH-5011412549
Depending on how a buyer intends to use this LD, if the reality matches the ad and the engine, and all systems have been regularly serviced and parts, e.g., plugs, hoses, brakes, etc., replaced per the maintenance schedules, it would be worth checking out, IMO. It's overpriced for the mileage (by about $5-7k, IMO), but the seller may be willing to negotiate. I would definitely have a thorough professional inspection done.
The V-10 is a strong engine; if it has been maintained diligently in the past, and a new buyer continues to be 'proactive' with maintenance, it could go another 100k.
YMMV.
I have communicated with one forum member about this rig and read copies of emails sent between him and the owner.
The LD looks clean, inside and out but it has 101,000 miles on it.
It has towed a Honda CRV for an unknown amount of miles. The tires and batteries are recent .
Little mention was made about engine or coach maintenance, both of which will need major service at this age and mileage.
The engine may be good for another 150,000 miles but the transmission could go another 50,000 or die tomorrow, towing wears the transmission the out at a much faster rate. And there are a lot of other parts that may need replacing at this mileage.
Without a mechanical inspection, it's tough to say what shape it's in An owner will tell you it's in 'top shape', no matter what .
It looks nice and there isn't a lot of available stock out there, $40K is too much.
Larry
I agree with all the above but everyone seems to want a newer model....negotiate the price down 10k...then any repairs are alot cheaper than a new one....
"An owner will tell you it's in 'top shape', no matter what ."
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And, if there are factual errors in the ad (Ed pointed out two, and there may be others; I didn't look closely at the ad), all the more reason to be cautious. I understand 'smoke-blowing' and general BS from a dealer who knows little or nothing about Lazy Dazes, but I expect an LD owner to know his/her rig and produce an accurate listing of features and 'warts'. However, ultimately, the onus is on a buyer to do all the homework and research to avoid getting snookered.
Tired of waiting for a new unit? Almost new 2019 TK located in Acton, CA. Very tempting . . .
2019 Lazy Daze Twin King - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/rvs/d/acton-2019-lazy-daze-twin-king/7101730058.html)
Tired of waiting for a new unit? Almost new 2019 TK located in Acton, CA. Very tempting . . .2019 Lazy Daze Twin King - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/rvs/d/acton-2019-lazy-daze-twin-king/7101730058.html)
Greg
Here's your chance to rejoin the fold.
Larry
Wonder why after just getting the LD they are now selling?
Wonder why after just getting the LD they are now selling?
I e-mailed the seller and asked that question. They want to get a smaller RV (van type).
Greg
Here's your chance to rejoin the fold.
As I said, tempting but we are targeting a 27’ model. We may end up going used though if the right one at the right time comes along. Can you buy an RV and keep socially distant? 🤔
I am curious if anyone tracked down information on if the new 2021 engine will allow a heavier Toad vehicle?
I know there was speculation about this, and it has been confirmed the G.C.W.R. stayed at 22,000, but was there any changes on toad weights?
Or is the tongue weight of the towed vehicle the only thing that is of concern?
Jane
I am curious if anyone tracked down information on if the new 2021 engine will allow a heavier Toad vehicle?
I know there was speculation about this, and it has been confirmed the G.C.W.R. stayed at 22,000, but was there any changes on toad weights?
Or is the tongue weight of the towed vehicle the only thing that is of concern?
While the 2021 E450 will have a more powerful engine, it's is the combination of the whole chassis that determines GVW and the GCVR.
The brakes and frame appear to be the same as the V10 models.
An 2021 E450, with a full load of 14,500-lbs, can pull up to a 7500-lb toad......on paper.
Altitude decreases this rating. Quoted below from 2019 E450 Owner's Manual.
"Note: For high altitude operation, reduce the gross combined weight by 2% per 1,000 ft (300 m) starting at the 1,000 ft (300 m) elevation point."
The West has quite a few passes at or over 10,000', do the math. A practical 7500-lb toad is a dream, 4000-lbs is more realistic.
The bumper is only rated to 4000-lbs, it needs reinforcing to the bumper and hitch to pull weights over this.
Tongue weight usually isn't a concern for a toad, only half the weight of the towbar is carried on the hitch..
Larry
An update. Just got off the phone with Todd to check my status. I got on the list in mid-August and am slowly moving up.
Production is still happening but the showroom and sales office are closed for obvious reasons. Production crew is able to remain socially distant while working so I was glad to hear that.
They are having a little trouble sourcing some material but the main hang up is getting the Ford chassis. Glad I’m not in a hurry!
Greg,
Thanks for the update. I’m about one week (Aug 21st) behind you on the list. Did Todd give you any idea as to when your name might come up? Also, did Todd say anything about people canceling due to COVID-19?
Thanks,
John
Hi John,
No specifics on a timeline. It all depends on how many people decide to follow through, of course. Didn't discuss reasons that people ahead of us may cancel.
I actually told Todd that I would like to wait until next year and asked him if I could get on next year's list but he said that at the rate it's going, it probably wouldn't be until next year anyway so I decided to stay on the list.
Thanks Larry.
Jane
1983 Multi plan, 22’, brown, 101 K miles. In Prescott Valley, AZ. He won’t take less than $5000.
Lazy Daze 26.5 MB - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://boulder.craigslist.org/rvs/d/boulder-lazy-daze-265-mb/7122464112.html)
2006 Mid Bath AE in Boulder, CO
Lazy Daze 26.5 MB - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://boulder.craigslist.org/rvs/d/boulder-lazy-daze-265-mb/7122464112.html)
2006 Mid Bath AE in Boulder, CO
Nice but way overpriced for a 15 year old rig, IMO.
"...way overpriced for a 15 year old rig..."
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If this 2006 is in stellar condition with every maintenance and service point done (from the Ford schedule and beyond), and components, e.g., converter, charger, solar system (I see one panel?) upgraded, no body or paint dings or fade, tires in good shape, etc., a reasonable selling price would be around $35k, possibly even a bit higher if the rig's condition warrants that. $49k is wishful thinking, IMO, but one never knows. It would be interesting to find out what this rig finally sells for, but those figures seem to be as scarce as unicorns.
For those looking for a project for next to nothing down:
1978 Lazy Daze*19 FT - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/rvs/d/colton-1978-lazy-daze19-ft/7125992451.html)
For those looking for a project for next to nothing down:1978 Lazy Daze*19 FT - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/rvs/d/colton-1978-lazy-daze19-ft/7125992451.html)
This rig will probably soon be parked in an industrial zone near you, another in the increasing population of IVFs (involuntary full-timers).
We keep getting more of them.
Larry
This rig will probably soon be parked in an industrial zone near you, another in the increasing population of IVFs (involuntary full-timers).
We keep getting more of them.
Reminds me of that very first episode of Bosch. I tried to find the thread from a few years back to look at the photo of the old LD in that opening scene but my search skills are sadly lacking.
Reminds me of that very first episode of Bosch. I tried to find the thread from a few years back to look at the photo of the old LD in that opening scene but my search skills are sadly lacking.
TV Lazy Daze - From Bosch Season 3, Episode 1 (https://www.lazydazeowners.com/index.php?topic=30169.msg172301#msg172301)
Open the thread and scroll down.
Chris
TV Lazy Daze - From Bosch Season 3, Episode 1 (https://www.lazydazeowners.com/index.php?topic=30169.msg172301#msg172301)
Open the thread and scroll down.
Chris
My bad, season 3, episode one. Thanks for posting the link, Chris!
2001 Lazy Daze 26.5 Mid Bath (https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2001-Lazy-Daze-26.5-Mid-Bath-5011359555) in San Diego, CA.
The notes say this was recently reduced and that it's been on the market for a few months, which I think is somewhat unusual? Reason for selling: "purchased a sprinter van."
2001 Lazy Daze 26.5 Mid Bath (https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2001-Lazy-Daze-26.5-Mid-Bath-5011359555) in San Diego, CA.
The notes say this was recently reduced and that it's been on the market for a few months, which I think is somewhat unusual? Reason for selling: "purchased a sprinter van."
Probably because it was overpriced. IMHO
Chris
I looked at the pictures on this one and it is covered in a lot of rust. At least they added pictures showing all of the rust. Also it has been on the market for a few months - probably because of the rust. I saw it when I started looking earlier in the year. Before the pandemic hit!
Ann
"Probably because it was overpriced."
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It still is; if it's in great shape, it's might go at best for about $20000.
"I looked at the pictures on this one and it is covered in a lot of rust."
Given the age of this LD the amount of rust is what would normally be expected, certainly nothing that a little elbow grease and a wire brush couldn't handle! Most of it is surface rust, easily removed.
What troubles me is the delamination of the top of the rear bumper, that's a concern.
Yes, given the obvious neglect, the price does seem quite high. :'(
There's a Lazy Daze there if you look long enough. 50th Anniversary edition, if not mistaken:
Lazy Daze Motorhome flatbed trailer vintage travel trailer -... (https://amarillo.craigslist.org/tro/d/canyon-lazy-daze-motorhome-flatbed/7129547645.html)
There's a Lazy Daze there if you look long enough. 50th Anniversary edition, if not mistaken:
Lazy Daze Motorhome flatbed trailer vintage travel trailer -... (https://amarillo.craigslist.org/tro/d/canyon-lazy-daze-motorhome-flatbed/7129547645.html)
Wow! That's the second Anniversary edition up for sale this week, and for basically the same price, too.
Hi Anastasia; Yes that green 2001 MB looks familiar. The rust is superficial. The propane tank needs repainting. I've seen worse rear bumpers, and repaired them. Not all that hard, not expensive. The roof looks great, the inside has been taken care of, and is overall a lot better than the 2001 I bought (and reworked) for friends in 2017. There is a trick to repairing the gaskets around the compartment doors. The rust on the bumper... I cleaned and repaierd the rust on mine just before the March Morro Bay meeting. I've included a picture of the bumper on 'Apple' that I fixed up in 2017. This problem could have been prevented by LD if they had run a bead between the top piece and actual bumper before painting. I think it is just glued. Water drains off the roof, right onto that spot. It takes about 18 years to go 'bad'.
I took a picture of Apple before. It was almost un noticeable after.
It is in San Diego. A more realistic price should be in the mid $20k to $25k. I live in San Diego, but for CV19 i would offer to look at it. RonB
Wow! That's the second Anniversary edition up for sale this week, and for basically the same price, too.
Here is an Anniversary Edition (30 footer) at a much lower price:
2006 Lazy Daze Class C Motorhome - rvs - by owner - vehicle... (https://billings.craigslist.org/rvs/d/roberts-2006-lazy-daze-class-motorhome/7129526171.html)
If I were going for a mid-2000's 30 footer, this is the one I would pursue!
2008 31' rear queen in Washington State.
2008 lazy Daze motor home - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/rvs/d/bothell-2008-lazy-daze-motor-home/7120303764.html)
Interesting looking 2002 30' IB for $25,900 in Murrietta, CA:
Beautiful 2002 lazy days 30Ft like new - rvs - by owner - vehicle... (https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/rvs/d/murrieta-beautiful-2002-lazy-days-30ft/7134614583.html)
This 30 footer just showed up on CL in Auburn, CA:
2004 E450 lazy daze class c 30ft low miles 1 owner - rvs - by owner... (https://sacramento.craigslist.org/rvs/d/auburn-2004-e450-lazy-daze-class-30ft/7137471123.html)
"This 30 footer just showed up.."
3 way fridge???? Not likely!
Rare RV? Yeah, rare as in hundreds on the road, including mine and Chris'.
This looks box stock, right down to the coffee maker. I wonder if the photos were taken when it was new? :o
Even the analog clock is original, looks exactly like the one I removed from my '04 IB and now resides in the garage.
Exceptionally low mileage for a 15 year old rig and I note they did not specify the number of hours on the generator.
"This 30 footer just showed up.."
3 way fridge???? Not likely!
This looks box stock, right down to the coffee maker. I wonder if the photos were taken when it was new? :o
3 way...yes....AC...propane...and OFF!!!! LOL
"This 30 footer just showed up.."
3 way fridge???? Not likely!
Rare RV? Yeah, rare as in hundreds on the road, including mine and Chris'.
This looks box stock, right down to the coffee maker. I wonder if the photos were taken when it was new? :o
Even the analog clock is original, looks exactly like the one I removed from my '04 IB and now resides in the garage.
Exceptionally low mileage for a 15 year old rig and I note they did not specify the number of hours on the generator.
"I wonder if the photos were taken when it was new? "I took that as a challenge, Steve. ;) I think not. The faux black panels are faded a bit; the headlight lenses are sun faded; there is a shadow on the carpet in the lounge area where a carpet runner was removed; tread on running boards is faded. Looks good for its year but certainly is "box stock". Chris
Chris, good eyes! May after dads eye surgery tomorrow he’ll be able to see the photos better 😂
Chris, good eyes! May after dads eye surgery tomorrow he’ll be able to see the photos better 😂
Hey, Steve - we wish you well for your eye surgery tomorrow.
The LDOG gang.
There is a sweet 2006 24 TK, $29,00 in Santa Cruz, California on Facebook marketplace. I went to see it and drove it. I told the owner about the forum. He's not in a real rush to sell so has not posted it anywhere else but Facebook. It's gray, 35,000 miles, one solar panel and no other upgrades that I'm aware of. If you can't find the ad, I have his Messenger contact info and phone number. I don't have permission to share that here but would be happy to ask him on a case by case basis.
Lisa - we'd be interested in seeing the 24TK - do you have their contact info? We searched marketplace in santa cruz but couldn't locate it!
"Hey, Steve - we wish you well for your eye surgery tomorrow."
Thanks for your good wishes, Chris. All went well with this 2nd surgery and when the swelling goes down in the next few days I'll have my eagle eyes back and will watch your every move. :o :D ;)
Lisa - we'd be interested in seeing the 24TK - do you have their contact info? We searched marketplace in santa cruz but couldn't locate it!
Hi, I messaged you on this forum with the info. Check your inbox and best of luck.
Can someone scan and post the 2021 options price list?
Thanks
Can someone scan and post the 2021 options price list?
Thanks
Scroll back up to message #1 and there is a pdf.
Chris
Scroll back up to message #1 and there is a pdf.
Chris
Thanks Chris!
A 2015 TK just posted on Seattle Craigslist. Good price!
2015 Lazy Daze Twin King Class C RV - rvs - by owner - vehicle... (https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/rvs/d/bonney-lake-2015-lazy-daze-twin-king/7141785073.html)
2009 midbath in Colorado at dealer.
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2009-Lazy-Daze-27-5012857953
The Colorado 09 sold within hours of posting so that one isn’t available but there is a 26.5 rear bath that just posted in MD for anyone on the east coast!
Used 2004 LAZY DAZE 26 1/2 Motor Home Class C at Beckleys RVs | Thurmont, MD... (http://www.beckleysrvs.com/product/used-2004-lazy-daze-26-1-2-1245318-16)
Hi all,
I'm considering a 30' LD, and I have a question. Are the 30'ers allowed in most state and National Parks? I'm going to want to be a park camper and want to make sure this rig will be allowed in.
Thanks for your help on this.
Erika
LD wannabee
Erika,
Perhaps this YouTube video can help answer some of your concerns.
https://youtu.be/-dB8OE2VJak
A quick look at the NPS info for YOSEMITE Valley (I use rec.gov) reveals the site length limitation per site. Clicking on any site will enable you to enter a filter for camp site searches. Upper Pines, for example, shows that there are 100 campsites that will fit a 30’ rig.
An important consideration for any campground reservation is to book the site as far ahead as possible. Wait too long and there is a greater likelihood that there will be no sites available for a 30’ rig. Longer sites go quickly especially when you consider that many Class A rigs will be booking these sites early.
As an example, the window for YOSEMITE Valley-Upper Pines for November 1-15 opened yesterday (the 15th of every month for a site reservation 6 months out). As of today, most of the sites have been booked. National Parks tend to go quickly, especially YOSEMITE.
Good luck with your LD hunt.
Kent
The posting of the 2015 TK was taken down a few days after being listed; apparently it was sold, as many good condition LD's seem to sell quickly.
Gary
Is this a Lazy Daze? The seller doesn't seem to know the name and posted it as a 1979 Sportsman Last Dazy. Looks like it has many of the same hallmarks as newer LDs. Anyways, he wants $1k or fair trade.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1424432307757062/
Yes, that’s a Lazy Daze.
Listed on Seattle Facebook marketplace. 2007 midbath with 57,000 miles. You probably have to be a Facebook member to see the ad. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4222362554470693/
Lynn & Lori - 2007 in Seattle sold as well :(. We keep missing them!
That person with the Gray MB facebook ad said "been in business since 1969". Try 1957 for slide in campers. Class C was an innovation, a slide in without the truck bed. RonB
{I think we can assume that since any model ordered now will be delivered in 2021, thus we are seeing 2021 prices.}
It was Ford, not Lazy Daze that jumped over the 2020 model with their newly updated 2021 E450. So there will not be any 2020 LD coaches. The model year of the LD uses the Ford chassis model year. Todd said we should receive our 2021 coach sometime this summer depending when the 2021 chassis arrives.
Going by our experience of joining the waiting list in January '19 (or maybe Feb.), then receiving our order package on the 19th of Dec., and If the chassis we specified (with the Ford options we wanted) is delivered sometime in Jan. 2020, that falls in line with what Todd said about the coach delivery timeframe. This also will have to take into account how many other orders are ahead of us. I know of one other person (a LD friend) that received his order package at the same time as ours. It will happen when it does. In the meantime I have a lot of projects to complete (maybe) before I can think about flying to CA.
Mike, how has the pandemic affected your original timeline? Any recent news from LD?
Mike, how has the pandemic affected your original timeline? Any recent news from LD?
I just put my name on the waiting list last week.
Vicky said up to 18 months for the entire process.
I just put my name on the waiting list last week.
Vicky said up to 18 months for the entire process.
Congrats! RB model?
Congrats! RB model?
27 MB 😊
The Colorado 09 sold within hours of posting so that one isn’t available but there is a 26.5 rear bath that just posted in MD for anyone on the east coast!
Used 2004 LAZY DAZE 26 1/2 Motor Home Class C at Beckleys RVs | Thurmont, MD... (http://www.beckleysrvs.com/product/used-2004-lazy-daze-26-1-2-1245318-16)
More pics, and a lower price on their e-bay ad ... E-bay item # 233623158277
:)
2004 LAZY DAZE LAZY DAZE | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-LAZY-DAZE-26-1-2-Used/233623158277?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)
More pics, and a lower price on their e-bay ad ... E-bay item # 233623158277
:)
2004 LAZY DAZE LAZY DAZE | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-LAZY-DAZE-26-1-2-Used/233623158277?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)
The rare "fiberglass roof" model? ???
The rare "fiberglass roof" model? ???
With "European style caravan seating"...whatever that is.
Once again, ads written by someone without a clue.
Larry
Any recent news from LD?
Ford plant is the bottleneck .. Our chassis is on the queu for few months :-(
Ford plant is the bottleneck .. Our chassis is on the queu for few months :-(
Bummer.
Bummer.
Lazy Daze is small potatoes to Ford I guess.
Chris
Lazy Daze is small potatoes to Ford I guess.
Chris
Not to mention the big RV manufacturers. Take a number, please!
CAUTION --- "Greese Spots"! Must have been from a Goose! :o ;D
Well in November those tires will be an actual 7 years old. Good enough to drive to the nearest tire shop to get new ones. Seven tires at $250 each. Overall, not too bad a shape. Needs a bit of TLC, and updating. A fiberglass roof; must not have gone up there to actually look at it. RonB
2019 Front Dinette in Michigan!
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2019-Lazy-Daze-24-FRONT-DINETTE-5012943503
We were first given a”Sometime this summer “ delivery time when signing the order last December. Now that has been changed to maybe September or October. We are to be given a month’s warning for a pick up date. The unit is now under construction.
I ordered a 2 weeks after Mike. My chassis got stuck in the covid shutdown. All the autos closed for two months and resumed manufacturing on May 18. Last word I had was my chassis is somewhere between Avon, OH and the dealer that LD gets its chassis from. ETA at the dealer is July 10. Then they'll start my RB's production. Todd didn't give me an updated delivery estimate, but I'm sure it will be delayed at least two months from my original September delivery guesstimate.
There were probably shut downs of other equipment manufacturers too. I'm wondering if LD can do some construction of the interior elements without a chassis to put them on.
I'm hoping for a call for a Christmas present from Montclair.
Linda
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Mike and Linda, will you be picking up your new Lazy Daze at the factory?
Lynn
Wow, Larry, your chance to upgrade your ride. A distress sale? Or wanted something bigger? Sleeps 5.... well some of them better be pretty small. RonB
Mike and Linda, will you be picking up your new Lazy Daze at the factory?
Lynn
Two different RB's, although Mike has told me his will be green, just like mine. The usual way is to do the walk through/education tour at the factory and sign all the papers at the factory. Then, because I'm not a CA resident, I'll be using the services of the ICC driver to ferry me and my shiny new LD to AZ, where I'll sign the final paper and it'll be mine.
Redirecting... (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/623368008276995/)
I dont think this one has been posted here yet.
1998 26' Island Bed - its a FaceBook ad. I think it will work if you click the link.
We will be doing the same as Linda as we live in Florida. Sales tax in our county is 6.5%. Just a bit better than CA. All I have to do is transfer the tag from the old LD to the new one at a minimal fee before going west.
I found this while crusing Craig's list.
Jon
2007 Lazy Daze - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://wenatchee.craigslist.org/rvs/d/dearing-2007-lazy-daze/7147831524.html)
LDOF member LindaB recently requested I post a list of what extras we ordered for the new Rear Bath we expect to take possession of this fall. Linda also wanted to know what modifications/enhancements I plan on doing this winter. We ordered the green/white exterior with the tan upholstery and cherry wood finish interior. This is what our old RB "Monty" was and we like it. The name "Monty" stayed with the coach per the new owners. Our new coach will be named "Villa Verde."
LD options LD we added:
1) 2-Solar panels
2) Bilstein shocks
3) Tan ultraleather cab seats & woodgrain dash
4) Sirius radio package
5) 12VDC battery disconnect
6) Backup camera. We will mostly be towing our Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
7) Outside shower. Again we occasionally had a good use for this. When dry camping I was able to easily put water into a tall bucket which couldn't be done inside without a lot of trouble and mess.
8) Heated power cab mirrors. Very glad I had that on Monty as it came in handy many times over the 10 years we had the coach.
9) Electric step. this is good to have on a very rainy day. The only problem I ever had on Monty's step was a stripped gear box which was easily replaced.
Unlisted options LD agreed to:
1) One 120VAC outlet under the left front overhead cabinet. To be used for DVD player when on shore power.
2) Access doors under the two dinette benches.
3) Porch light on outside of upper left rear wall above utility hookups and sewer dump. Switch is at coach entry door.
4) Place a 'T' valve in fresh water line beside toilet. This will be the water supply for a [ Luxe Bidet Neo 185 ] (see Amazon) that attaches under the toilet seat. We had this in Monty and it saves a lot of toilet paper. There is enough room for the control handle right of the toilet in the RearBath however I don't think this is true for the MidBath.
My future Modifications and enhancements to be done this winter:
1) Big Foot leveling jacks. We wouldn't be without these. There are many reasons such as leveling in pouring rain. Lifting a wheel(s) off the ground (with jack stands) for tire changing. Tilting the coach to dump 'Lake Newton.' I am getting the "Auto Central System" which has one pump with automatic & manual leveling controls and lifetime warranty on the hydraulic cylinders. I will request the push button control board (in a plastic housing) be on the end of an umbilical cable coming from under the back of the driver's seat and long enough to reach outside the coach if necessary. I had the one pump BigFoot manual control on Monty and only had one issue with a leaking seal on one jack over 10-years. I will (and had with Monty) request powering the jack pump from the engine battery . I mostly always ran the engine when running the jack's pump. This keeps from draining the coach batteries some when arriving at a camp site. In Monty I later configured the pump power DC supply via the output from a heavy duty marine 2-battery switch. This gave me the option of using the engine or coach batteries for the jacks. It was good to have but I never needed to use the coach batteries for the jacks. I will also add glass arched bubble levels placed on dash (left to right) and drivers door (forward & aft) if I chose to manually level the coach.
2) Add Camco 'Quickie Flush' to the black holding tank. I had this on all six past motorhomes and wouldn't be without it.
3) Add two additional Lifeline 6VDC batteries with disconnect switch. In Monty I had the 2 extra batteries placed on a back shelf in the outside left front storage compartment. I may do that again or if DW will give up the storage under the front dinette seat they could go there. I never had a problem with low voltage even dry camping for over a week.
4) Maxx Air roof vent covers. This allows using the vents in rain and gives UV protection to the original vent covers.
5) Progressive Dynamics Surge Protector. This will be placed behind the converter under the refrigerator and wired between the converter and the shore power/generator transfer switch. This allows for protection from both power sources. The remote LED display attaches to the cabinet just above the furnace air intake door.
6) Trik-L-Start power starting battery/maintainer. I had this in Monty and never had a low engine battery. This depends on what LD now does with the (if any) connection between the engine & coach batteries.
7) An 800 watt inverter with remote on/off switch placed under the dinette for computer and small appliance battery chargers.
8) Upward facing pancake fan for outside back of refrigerator to increase airflow. Small pancake fan inside of the refrigerator to better circulate air past the cooling fins. This will be powered from the power supply wire to the interior light.
9) We Boost cellular repeater/amplifier. In Monty this was placed in the cabinet above the dinette with the antenna wire going through the roof there. It will be powered by the 12V outlet at the forward end of the cabinet by the TV. Outside antenna placement to be determined later. Inside antenna will be on the wall near the TV mount.
10) LED lights placed at the front and rear of the engine compartment, inside the generator housing, and above the gasoline tank for rodent control. Like many others I too had a problem with rodents nesting and chewing in these locations. After I did the light installations I had NO more problems with rodents.
11) Borg brass tire valve extenders.
12) TST tire monitors with color display. There will also be the TST repeater taped to the inside rear window powered by switched power from the toilet overhead light. There were a few times in the past I would loose the signal from the Cherokee sensors when I forgot to turn on the repeater.
13) I will add aromatic cedar wood paneling to the back wall of the coat closet using brass nails.
14) I will add cork lining to all the cabinet shelves to slow items from shifting. Also to the floor of the closet.
15) Wrap around Astro turf door step rug on outside step. This helps slow down the amount of dirt is tracked into the coach.
16) Flood alert alarms. One sensor on the floor next to the water pump and the other one on the floor under the kitchen sink.
17) Stick up shower towel bar and hooks on the shower wall.
18) Magazine rack on wall next to bath sink.
19) Fused #10 gauge wire in a protected sheath from the engine battery to an added trailer light 7-blade connector (replacing the 6-pin LD connector). The power goes from the 7-pin socket via a 6' umbilical cable (available from Tractor Supply) to the towed Cherokee battery to supply the draw from the SMI tow brake system.
Well, that is all I can think of so far. I'm always open for any other suggestion or observations.
Linda, I hope this helps,
Mike C
RE: 19) Fused #10 gauge wire in a protected sheath from the engine battery to an added trailer light 7-blade connector (replacing the 6-pin LD connector). The power goes from the 7-pin socket via a 6' umbilical cable (available from Tractor Supply) to the towed Cherokee battery to supply the draw from the SMI tow brake system.
I talked to Todd about this with Orwan. I sent him the 7 pin plug early on, and it was installed during construction. 10A fuse went into the SMI wiring on the tow'd.
YMMV
Joel
Well we have decided to add our name to the waitlist on Monday. I understand it is an 18 to 24 month wait but I imagine it is well worth it. I would love it if others shared their experience with the waitlist and everything it entails. I am so excited!
Regards
Julie
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2012-Lazy-Daze-31--Island-Bed-5013021465
Pics not yet posted. Listed for $62,000.
Thanks Mike.
Showing my ignorance, I thought catalytic heater is essential addition, no ?
Put our name on the list 13 months ago, still waiting to hear something???
Put our name on the list 13 months ago, still waiting to hear something???
I am talking to Todd for 3+ years. Due to other travels, I was not ready to take motorhome delivery before the end of 2020.
If I am at your place, I will find directly from Mothership on where I am on the list. Good luck.
Maybe I'm missing something, but is there a reason why a person couldn't just call Todd and ask his/her status on any of the "lists" that LD now apparently has in play?
I doubt that LD will ever provide basic ordering-related information on a recorded message any more than they will accept credit cards or change many, if any, of their other MOs, so calling and talking with Todd would seem to be the most accurate and current source of information.
YMMV, as always.
Put our name on the list 13 months ago, still waiting to hear something???
Wow. I've never heard of that long before hearing something.
Have you called to find out what's going on?
I've only been waiting 10 months (August 2019). Confirmed with Todd a few weeks back that I'm still on the list. He indicated that, if we decide to proceed, we are looking at delivery sometime after the first of the year. It's a process . . .
"Listed for $62,000."
Far beyond 'reasonable'! :o
2011 Rear Bath model in Washington state:
2011 Lazy Daze C 27 Motorhome - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive... (https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/rvs/d/grapeview-2011-lazy-daze-27-motorhome/7152526793.html)
Sweet deal?
RV Free plus you get $ 100 to move - rvs - by owner - vehicle... (https://fresno.craigslist.org/rvs/d/fresno-rv-free-plus-you-get-100-to-move/7155107799.html)
CL listing in Roseburg/Oakland Oregon. Check that classic interior!
Classic Class C 89 22ft lazy daze 22’ Motorhome - rvs - by owner -... (https://roseburg.craigslist.org/rvs/d/roseburg-classic-class-89-22ft-lazy/7144829628.html)
CL listing in Roseburg/Oakland Oregon. Check that classic interior!
Classic Class C 89 22ft lazy daze 22’ Motorhome - rvs - by owner -... (https://roseburg.craigslist.org/rvs/d/roseburg-classic-class-89-22ft-lazy/7144829628.html)
Check photo #14, above the kitchen area, the ceiling appears to be sagging, the usual result of a roof leak.
Larry
Also the ceiling view of the swamp cooler, picture 12, has loose and falling 'white ceiling layer' material. I wouldn't trust to walk on that roof area. A fixer upper for sure. Oregon with real rainfall..... As Larry would say, a real 'money pit'. Unless you were really a dedicated fixer, with a lot of time on your hands. RonB
That would be unfortunate! This unit is located in my area so if anyone is interested and would like someone to take a preliminary look I would be happy to do so :) Matt
For someone that has been looking for a classic, vintage Lazy Daze, this is the one!
1976 Lazy Daze Classic Motor Home Original Owner Every Mile... (https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/rvs/d/damascus-1976-lazy-daze-classic-motor/7158392745.html)
That is sweet.
For someone that has been looking for a classic, vintage Lazy Daze, this is the one!
1976 Lazy Daze Classic Motor Home Original Owner Every Mile... (https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/rvs/d/damascus-1976-lazy-daze-classic-motor/7158392745.html)
Gorgeous. Was that rear kitchen a standard plan or was it really custom built? Anyone know?
Chris
I’m curious as to how it can sleep six??? Two on the roof, perhaps?
I’m curious as to how it can sleep six??? Two on the roof, perhaps?
2 in the cabover bed, 2 (skinny folks) in dinette, 2 (skinny folks) in the gaucho bed over the dinette. That gaucho bed is pretty cool.
Chris
2 in the cabover bed, 2 (skinny folks) in dinette, 2 (skinny folks) in the gaucho bed over the dinette. That gaucho bed is pretty cool.
Thanks, Chris. I hadn’t noticed the gaucho bed. Very cool, reminds of my Hi-Lo trailer!
For a collector, this is the cleanest 70's LD I have seen, the paint looks beautiful.
Wish there were pics of how the bunk bed works, looks like it is hinged somehow.
The price is what it is, right now RV prices are irrationally high.
Larry
Wish there were pics of how the bunk bed works, looks like it is hinged somehow.
That would be interesting to see how this particular bed works. On our Hi-Lo, the bed was hinged and used a cable system. Here is a video of how it operated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIkbLGTN44U
It was a little dicey learning to operate but not bad once you got the hang of it.
Hi All, can someone comment on this one?
We are in very early stages of finding one for family of five
2000 Lazy Daze 26 1/2 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/283943624652)
Hi All, can someone comment on this one?
We are in very early stages of finding one for family of five
2000 Lazy Daze 26 1/2 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/283943624652)
The way this vehicle is presented looks very enticing to me. I would look into it further. The mileage seems pretty high @157K. Maybe other members can comment on that aspect. If you check it out, comb through all the records they claim to have, get it inspected if you are still interested. I Never bought a vehicle on Ebay, I would be careful about that.
Pete
Well that is a standard midbath, except for the barrel chairs on one side. That makes it a rear lounge. The paint looks good. 15,000 miles on the tires doesn't make them good. Date codes for the tires would be better. "rear stored spare" for the 2000 year might have been in the bustle. I can't remember which year the tire got moved into the passenger side storage compartment. The blue upholstery is correct. The "Fites' listed on the door name plate does match the paperwork title.
Being stored inside is a good thing, but the roof is going to need some attention by now. The price at $15k is about right for that many miles. 157,000 is a lot, but many people on this board have more miles than that. The maintenance records could be very valuable with a coach this old. It is about the same age as my '99TK. A picture of the roof would be nice.
I think the price is a little high for the miles, but it does have some of the Banks kit. In motion satellite, and HWH levelers. Sunscreens, Bilstein shocks are good. I'm going to assume everything works. If that is the original refrigerator (mine still is), it is on borrowed time. Likely to need replacing in the next year or so. Age of house batteries is unknown. Generator hours about right. Solar is good. The original RV-30S could be upgraded along with the converter. The ad copy says it has been upgraded, so maybe that includes those items. Certainly looks good enough to warrant an in person evaluation. RonB
I have another point of view, while the price is low, at 157,000 miles, this 20 year-old rig is probably in need of significant mechanical work.
Few rigs reach this amount of mileage. I see no mention in the ad about anything being replaced or rebuilt.
It has a 7000-lb hitch, so something over 4000-lbs was towed. 90% of LDs with this type of mileage have had their transmission rebuilt and sometimes the engine and rear axle, The rest of the drivetrain, including the brakes, steering and suspension probably need work. Nothing on a motorhome is cheap to fix, ususally costing two or three times what car repairs cost. Just finding a mechanic that will work on motorhomes is a huge challenge.
Without a front to back inspection by a highly experienced mechanic and RV tech, I wouldn't get near it. YMMV
Larry
I would look at the 2000MB with 157K like this:
Purchase price + worst case scenario = $X
Is $X an amount I could spend? Is the result better than what I could buy for $X elsewhere?
Say you buy it for $15k and spend $15K on repairs (engine $8k, Trans $4k, something else $3k). Would $30k be worth it for a 20 year old coach with a new engine and a new transmission and new tires and a new fridge and a new water heater? It might be.... Anything that doesn't need to be fixed or is less expensive would be a win.
I doubt this one sells for $15K when the auction is over, but that is the way I would think about it.
It also depends a bit on how you plan to use the RV. A cross country trip is different than driving 50 miles each way to camp at the beach for a week twice a year.
Rich
Purchase price + worst case scenario = $X
Say you buy it for $15k and spend $15K on repairs (engine $8k, Trans $4k, something else $3k).
Alternatively, what other rig could you get with $30K?
I picked up a 2005 RB with 38,000 miles for 30k about two years ago...
Is there something like a Kelly Blue Book for Lazy Daze RVs? From reading this forum and thread, it seems like asking prices vary quite a bit for identical or similar year models.
Is there something like a Kelly Blue Book for Lazy Daze RVs? From reading this forum and thread, it seems like asking prices vary quite a bit for identical or similar year models.
There are too few units on the road and too many variables regarding maintenance, usage, and ramp rash to make generalizations like there is for KBB. Do check out the price list under helpful links on the home page.
cheers.
Joel
2010 RB in Riverside, CA on E-Bay:
2010 Lazy Daze 27 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/264802855025)
Another classic Lazy Daze. Dogs not included :D
DODGE Lazy Daze 1973 - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://reno.craigslist.org/rvs/d/carson-city-dodge-lazy-daze-1973/7164302673.html)
Another classic Lazy Daze. Dogs not included :D
DODGE Lazy Daze 1973 - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://reno.craigslist.org/rvs/d/carson-city-dodge-lazy-daze-1973/7164302673.html)
The ad states it has an evaporative cooler which is "collectible". I wondering if I should get in line for this 47 yr old swamper.
Chris
The ad states that this unit has a "cassette toilet"; a cassette toilet is essentially a "porta potty" that has a waste tank that can be separated from the toilet "bowl" and is removable through a door on the outside of the rig. Cassettes are used in rigs without a black tank, and are common in truck campers and some vans. Did this LD not have a black tank?
The ad states that this unit has a "cassette toilet"; a cassette toilet is essentially a "porta potty" that has a waste tank that can be separated from the toilet "bowl" and is removable through a door on the outside of the rig. Cassettes are used in rigs without a black tank, and are common in truck campers and some vans. Did this LD not have a black tank?
Hard to know without contacting the seller. The under-chassis photo does show a rather large tank of some sort.
The ad states it has an evaporative cooler which is "collectible". I wondering if I should get in line for this 47 yr old swamper.
If not for that, how about the shag carpet on the dog house and dash? :D
At least the ad didn't advertise "no pets"
Another classic Lazy Daze. Dogs not included :D
DODGE Lazy Daze 1973 - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://reno.craigslist.org/rvs/d/carson-city-dodge-lazy-daze-1973/7164302673.html)
Another floor plan I have not seen before. It's much longer than other similar vintage LD and is built on a lightweight van chassis. Anyone notice the lack of rear duals wheels? I doubt if its GVW is over 9000-lbs, maybe less. It can’t have much CCC.
The interior looks almost original, its interior looks have not been altered, it even has what looks to be the original refrigerator. The exterior paint and stripes have been redone.
Larry
2010 RB in Riverside, CA on E-Bay:
2010 Lazy Daze 27 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/264802855025)
So I've been tracking this on ebay and it looks like there is a bidding war going on. At this point, looks over-priced for a 10 year old motorhome, IMO:
eBay Item Bid History (https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/264802855025?item=264802855025&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&showauto=true)
Looks like 3345 really wants it. Pretty nice though 10 years or not.
Jon
So I've been tracking this on ebay and it looks like there is a bidding war going on. At this point, looks over-priced for a 10 year old motorhome, IMO:
eBay Item Bid History (https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/264802855025?item=264802855025&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&showauto=true)
Wow, and to think it started at 10k. Ebay at it's best.
It probably didn't have a black tank. As I recall from the model at the factory, it was a porta-potty in a very small closet.
We had a 1972 self-contained camper and it had a 5 gal black tank and NO gray water tank. The gray water emptied via a section of hose into a bucket. Oh, yeah, classy. We didn't keep it long.
JuliW
Minden, NV
Things are heating up on eBay. Just under 2 1/2 hours to go:
eBay Item Bid History (https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/264802855025?item=264802855025&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&showauto=true)
JMO, but committing to pay almost $60,000 bucks (or, possibly more!) for a 10-year-old rig is FLAT NUTS! :o
It just sold for $65,001.00 plus $6,175 California tax plus transfer fees.
Jody
JMO, but committing to pay almost $60,000 bucks (or, possibly more!) for a 10-year-old rig is FLAT NUTS! :o
It does seem like a lot, but it’s evidently a vehicle in high demand right now based on the bidding. A Mustang Shelby sells for millions. Personally, I’d rather have 60-ish Lazy Dazes but to each their own.
I don't, mean this in a flippant way, but there are people for whom time is more valuable than money.
If a person reasonably suspects that some substantial portion of their remaining traveling / retirement years have been altered by the pandemic, why not spend a portion of their nest egg to enjoy what they can while they can. Who in that situation cares if it costs a premium? You can’t buy more time for any price!
That’s a nice looking rig in seemingly fantastic condition. I can see why someone snatched it up and I hope they enjoy it. It’s not like you can roll up to the factory and just buy a new one.
Rich
‘03 MB in NC
Rich, I completely agree. I bought our LD new from the factory when our son was 10. He’s now 18 and starting college. In those short 8 years, we took as many summer camping trips as possible. The experiences we had as a family are priceless to me. Even if I had to pay double for our LD, I feel like it would still have been a bargain for how it bonded us as a family. Could I have gotten a SOB for considerably less? Sure, but I value quality so the price differential wasn’t an issue. Now that I’m retired and my wife is busy running her business, I take most trips alone and I feel like it’s all gravy from here on out.
On a side note: When we bought our LD, Steve was in a talkative mood and I ended up chatting with him for over three hours (rainy day right after XMAS). He told me that there was a big demand for LDs in Japan, of all places. He surmised it was because the Japanese liked smaller high quality rigs because the roads there are much tighter. He told me the average buyer there ends up paying about double what we pay here due to the tariffs, taxes, shipping etc. but they still can’t get enough LDs! I’m guessing those Japanese buyers would have no problem paying the final bid for this rig that just sold if it was all inclusive. If you want to talk overpriced goods, IMO, the high end wine market is craazzyy! Bottom line is, the final “right” price for something is whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
Hmmm...
This Great Buy on eBay makes me wonder how high the bidding would go on these Lazy Daze beauties (see pics).
No doubt the sellers could find a real ‘Bonanza’ coming their way. 💰💰💰
Kent
Shipping might be a bit of a problem if the location is indicated by the signs in the background. :)
Mid bath posted on Craigslist:
2000 Lazy Daze Mid-Bath Class C RV - rvs - by owner - vehicle... (https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/rvs/d/scotts-valley-2000-lazy-daze-mid-bath/7167525922.html)
Well no pictures, and even gently used, 169,000 miles is a lot. Interesting that so many coming on the market recently are complete with all of the utensils, extension cords, hoses, sheets, pots and pans etc. Obvious that the sellers are getting out of the motorhome lifestyle. I wonder if I'm missing something? Too hard to find places to stay enroute to destinations? Again with CV19 I'd prefer to travel with my own accomodations. Or are people who were 'on the fence' just jumping now because of the sellers market? RonB
Well no pictures, and even gently used, 169,000 miles is a lot.
....
I wonder if I'm missing something?
The ad strikes me as off a bit too. It seems strange to write such a good description but not include pictures.
Being on Craigslist, and given the current RV market, I would proceed carefully thinking that it could be a scam.... It could also just be an owner who isn't comfortable with photos and the internet.
No way I'd send a deposit to 'hold it' or anything like that.
I'm probably wrong, but it's always important to remember that scammers are out there.
Rich
Hi Rich; I think the problem with pictures is more commonly a 'technology' gap for us older persons (me for instance). Multiple platforms, different cameras; i.e actual film, cards, cables, WiFi, bluetooth, cloud etc. FB, Craigslist, RVtrader, other venues I've never heard of. Someone unaccustomed to looking at ad's for other motorhomes, like someone not actually on LDOF, might not realize how crucial photos are to remote buyers.
I have friends who sold their LD by putting a sign on the dash saying 'for sale' with their phone number. Populous areas can get away with that, if the price is good enough. (San Diego area, southern Ca, more people have at least heard of Lazy Daze). Others have sold at Caravan Club meetings with a note on a bulletin board, actual cork boards!
While there definitely are scammers operating, fewer would bother with a poorly known brand like LD. Phone calls, and physical inspection, with documentation, etc. before any money changes hands is best. I bought a used one in my state, it was nearby, but I knew what the title and paperwork procedures were. It was easier because the seller had the same bank we use, and his local branch was open that Saturday. He smogged it minutes before the 'sale'. RonB
For a slightly different perspective, Ron, we are in the process of getting our '06 RB ready to sell. Ironically, we picked up our new 1994 MB on August 1, 1994. We have been RVing in one rig or another for 48 years. For us, it's age. And, yes, our rig will be very well equipped right down to the pots and pans, dishes, and plenty of extras. Perhaps there are many of us just plain "aging out".
Best,
JuliW
Minden, NV
For a slightly different perspective, Ron . . .Perhaps there are many of us just plain "aging out". Best,
JuliW
Minden, NV
JuliW, you have a good point. Nobody is getting younger.
When Orwan came into our lives, we expected to use it for 10 years before reevaluating our mobility and aging out. (El hombre propone, pero Deo depone). This week the number of individuals who 'aged out' prematurely hit 150K.
Something in the room with a greatly elongated proboscis of which the moderators rightly want to minimize discussion. is going to have an effect on the market, the industry, and the sort of mobile activity that many of us took for normalcy last year. That is going to have an effect.
I know people who have looked at Orwan and have said that they would like to have something of that quality who would like and appreciate a well maintained and used LazyDaze.
Maybe we could start a "Upcoming availablity of LDs for Family and Friends" thread that would provide a resource to find a good home for a rig out of which the current owner has 'aged'.
When Mary was diagnosed with Stage IV ovarian cancer, I realized that with every birth certificate comes and undated death certificate. We hadn't expected it to be executed so soon.
YMMV
joel
JuliW It will be a very fortunate person that becomes the new owner of your rig. You have been missed!
1990 lazy daze 26ft class C motorhome - rvs - by owner - vehicle... (https://sacramento.craigslist.org/rvs/d/sacramento-1990-lazy-daze-26ft-class/7167146506.html)
What say you, LD Lovers?
The seller on this one has someone coming to see it this afternoon, but if it's still available after I get off work today I'll be heading out to look at it as well. On the phone he told my partner that there is something wrong with the truck A/C that is not repairable. No other real details. Have any of you heard of such a thing?
Wow, and to think it started at 10k. Ebay at it's best.
I think it sold for $65,001.
1990 lazy daze 26ft class C motorhome - rvs - by owner - vehicle... (https://sacramento.craigslist.org/rvs/d/sacramento-1990-lazy-daze-26ft-class/7167146506.html)
What say you, LD Lovers?
The seller on this one has someone coming to see it this afternoon, but if it's still available after I get off work today I'll be heading out to look at it as well. On the phone he told my partner that there is something wrong with the truck A/C that is not repairable. No other real details. Have any of you heard of such a thing?
Must have sold, the posting has been deleted.
Must have sold, the posting has been deleted.
*ZING*
Just as well, I decided about an hour ago to hold my horses and wait for my number to come up on the waiting list for a new one. :D
Hi Dale; The one on Craigslist that sold for $65k, was a 2010 with 3300 miles on it.
Did you get the 4400 Satellite 'Dish' antenna mounted on the roof ok? I know you were going to do that. I haven't reached that point yet. RonB
Hi Dale; The one on Craigslist that sold for $65k, was a 2010 with 3300 miles on it.
Did you get the 4400 Satellite 'Dish' antenna mounted on the roof ok? I know you were going to do that. I haven't reached that point yet. RonB
Yes, satellite dish is mounted and working great.
$65k for that 2010 shows that prices are going up for used lazy daze. It looked like new, so, maybe a great deal.
For someone that has been looking for a classic, vintage Lazy Daze, this is the one!
1976 Lazy Daze Classic Motor Home Original Owner Every Mile... (https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/rvs/d/damascus-1976-lazy-daze-classic-motor/7158392745.html)
Now on eBay. Lots of photos to gander at:
1976 lazy daze | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/184381582561)
Now on e-bay. Lots of photos to gander at:
1976 lazy daze | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/184381582561)
It will be interesting to see what it goes for.
I noticed it says Pomona Ca instead of Montclair.
It will be interesting to see what it goes for.
I noticed it says Pomona Ca instead of Montclair.
Yes, that’s what my ‘85 said too. At some point (in the 90’s I believe), I think the city borders were adjusted and the factory ended up in Montclair. Others here can probably tell us what happened.
Was notified of new LD listing on RV Trader today if interested.https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Lazy-Daze-26-MID-BATH-5013443401
Can't say the color inspires me but it's good and cheap. Via Facebook marketplace.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1201246223559885/
I think this is the first time I've heard the Mid-Bath referred to as the "party model."
Lazy daze - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/rvs/d/peoria-lazy-daze/7174397136.html)
Hi Greg; Yes, it's more like 27' long, and sleeping eight? well tiny ones, or sleeping on the floor. I once had a 8' 6" camper with 11 people in it. Standing like sardines. Torrential rain and 40 mph winds outside, at night in the desert. The tent campers, were welcome until the storm passed. Never did find some of the tents! Memorable, but not much of a party. RonB
Memorable, but not much of a party. RonB
If I recall correctly, Navy description of a work detail involved the word 'party'. . . ;)
joel
If I recall correctly, Navy description of a work detail involved the word 'party'. . . ;)
joel
Yes, working parties. I was a “party animal” in those days!
We took delivery of our 2019 mid bath February 15, 2020. I have heard that we got one of the last V10’s. I asked Tood what was up recently and he told me that Ford had stopped production due to COVID19, they were waiting for new chassis to arrive. Given that our chassis arrived May 2019, I would guess that no new Lazy Daze will be delivered till next year. The factory needs the components to keep going. They have had to find new suppliers for windows, molded parts like wheel covers, corners etc.
We hope they keep building LD as we are loving ours. Looking forward to more travel club events.
We took delivery of our 2019 mid bath February 15, 2020. I have heard that we got one of the last V10’s. I asked Tood what was up recently and he told me that Ford had stopped production due to COVID19, they were waiting for new chassis to arrive. Given that our chassis arrived May 2019, I would guess that no new Lazy Daze will be delivered till next year. The factory needs the components to keep going. They have had to find new suppliers for windows, molded parts like wheel covers, corners etc.
We hope they keep building LD as we are loving ours. Looking forward to more travel club events.
just fyi .... Mothership did receive at least one (mine) 2021 chassis and reading here, I think there are at least two other folks ahead of me. There are no promises but mothership is shooting for Nov delivery ...
We made the $4K deposit on our 2121RB in early January and will take delivery sometime in mid September. We should get the pickup date very soon. We will be taking possession in Ehrenberg, AZ instead of going to the factory. It will be a long westward drive across I-10 from Florida when the time comes. We will be renting a vehicle for that part of the trip.
We made the $4K deposit on our 2121RB in early January and will take delivery sometime in mid September. We should get the pickup date very soon. We will be taking possession in Ehrenberg, AZ instead of going to the factory. It will be a long westward drive across I-10 from Florida when the time comes. We will be renting a vehicle for that part of the trip.
Congrats!!
Keep us updated.
I'm on the list as of about 3 months ago.
I got on the list exactly a year ago. Still waiting to hear from LD.
We went on the waiting list in early March 2019 and received our contract the last week in July. In addition to the contract was CA DMV form which listed the chassis production date as 6/20 and the completion date of the “incomplete vehicle “ as 12/ 20. This form I think is to allow LD to bring the chassis in while delaying payment of the taxes. I was surprised to see the 12/20 date. My right hand calculator determined that that was a 5 month build time compared to the 8 to 9 months that earlier people had been given. My relationship with Todd is littered with misunderstandings about time so I thought I would get the true build time from Todd. This is copied and pasted from his answer “ DMV form basically acknowledging the year of the chassis and it’s mfr. date. Our completion date close but not actually the delivery date. We are hoping for Dec. or January if all goes well as it is going now.”
Huge out for him if it doesn’t get done on time, but we are planning on a trip to the factory in January. Hopefully the pace is picking up.
I got on the list exactly a year ago. Still waiting to hear from LD.
Hi Greg,
I got my name on the list 3 days after you. Let’s hope we hear from LD sooner than later.
- John
I got on the list exactly a year ago. Still waiting to hear from LD.
Fifteen months next week for me.
Thanks Chris
We will be taking delivery in Las Vegas hopefully in Nov. Plan is to pre pay and put NJ number plate in Las Vegas and take our time to come back home in NJ. I am hoping to make these modification during maiden journey 1) hydraulic leveler 2) two additional batteries 3) in-line EMS 4) dually tire stem 5) two T connection in propane for the heater and outside stove. I also read information about reinforcing hitch by replacing screws or welding, we will wait for toad decision once we know what is involve driving longer vehicle but if I find a way to reinforce hitch I will go for it as well. I have no idea where I will find reputable places ... if I cannot find reputable place for hydraulic leveler earlier in our journey, we will stop by in MI on our way ..
Nothing is concrete and we reserve to right to come back home whenever we get tiered but this is the plan as of right now ... Sign in - Google Accounts (https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1tTaMqHpTmKd4WaMq92Wu3wQmSRV2tJJQ&ll=37.257722983496855%2C-94.76512092717026&z=6)
Regards,
Really getting off track on this thread, fellas! :)
Had a little chuckle at the ad author’s comment that this is a project: 😆
Montana 2014 - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale (https://reno.craigslist.org/rvs/d/dayton-montana-2014/7184792280.html)
Hahahahaha!!
This seems like an amazing deal with the new engine. I would get it if I didn’t just buy mine! The link seems to have changed to this - https://hr4kf.app.goo.gl/zp5Zk
Was notified of new LD listing on RV Trader today if interested.https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Lazy-Daze-26-MID-BATH-5013443401
I have no experience with this site, but it may be helpful to those looking for an LD.
Lazy Daze RVs for sale (https://www.smartrvguide.com/rvs-for-sale/lazy-daze)
I have no experience with this site, but it may be helpful to those looking for an LD.
Lazy Daze RVs for sale (https://www.smartrvguide.com/rvs-for-sale/lazy-daze)
I recognize the 2012 MB listing from Montana. It’s at least a year old so probably no longer valid.
WOW :o Revisiting the classifieds I realize just how lucky I got!
When I decided I wanted a Lazy Daze after extensive research on the best class c rvs.
I almost gave up finding one I could possibly afford on my "swamp water" budget!
However, I knew I got a good deal when I bought Ophelia, my 2005 30' TB, on January 25th 2020.
The best part... I didn't have to replace the outside porch light with "RED" one to make money to pay for her! 🤣😜🤭
And my 9-month search paid off a mere 45 minutes from home! 15k and a 1997 Mazda Miata in trade and she became mine!
Juanita
"... I bought Ophelia, my 2005 30' TB,..."
How sweet it is, yours is only a year younger than mine (now in the capable hands of LazyBones2). And she also a Special Needs Educator!
Hello!
This is a great forum!
We got on the list on March 29 2019.
Todd called me last Friday - August 28, asked for address and said he is mailing the paperwork for the order.
So in our case the initial wait is 17 months.
It's been a long wait and now we are super excited to hear from the Mothership.
We are ordering 27MB
Congratulations on the heads up. The wait isn't over and I wouldn't bet on the given delivery date being 'spot on'. ;)
(mine was 'early to mid February 2014' I say it was ready the 87th day of Feb.)
You can add a map location in the profile which gives others an idea where you are. It doesn't need to be exact. If you use the Washington Monument living within 50 miles of DC is close enough.
I see you registered about the time you got on the waiting list - a belated welcome aboard.
joel
Hello!
This is a great forum!
We got on the list on March 29 2019.
Todd called me last Friday - August 28, asked for address and said he is mailing the paperwork for the order.
So in our case the initial wait is 17 months.
It's been a long wait and now we are super excited to hear from the Mothership.
We are ordering 27MB
Michael, do you know what the model year will be?
Chris
Michael, do you know what the model year will be?
I’m going to guess Michael’s model year will still be a 2021. Since I am nearly 5 months behind him, I’m not sure what mine will be. 🤔
Congrats, Michael!
Michael, do you know what the model year will be?
Chris
Not yet. I guess still 2021
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/1985-Lazy-Daze-22-5013756833
That's way too much money for a 36 year old LD.
The interior paneling has let go and has been painted.
From the same site, for $4000 more you can get a 2007, a superior chassis, engine and transmission, with less mileage.
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2007-Lazy-Daze-26.5-REAR-BATH-5013738934
You would be better off getting a 1990 or newer LD and avoiding the multi-piece, leak-prone front cap and window, they all leak eventually. The pre-1990 LDs have all sorts of leakage problems.
Larry
That's way too much money for a 36 year old LD.
The interior paneling has let go and has been painted.
From the same site, for $4000 more you can get a 2007, a superior chassis, engine and transmission, with less mileage.
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2007-Lazy-Daze-26.5-REAR-BATH-5013738934
You would be better off getting a 1990 or newer LD and avoiding the multi-piece, leak-prone front cap and window, they all leak eventually. The pre-1990 LDs have all sorts of leakage problems.
Larry
The price shocked me too Larry! And yes, the leakage problems........... ugh I am dealing with that now on my 84. The whole front cab is being rebuilt. After it is done though, other then regular resealing is there anything special to be done to help prevent leaks in the future?
Teresa, we have an ongoing thread to post non-forum classifieds here. Less clutter this way.
Non-member Classified Listings for 2020 (https://www.lazydazeowners.com/index.php?topic=34482.0)
The price shocked me too Larry! And yes, the leakage problems........... ugh I am dealing with that now on my 84. The whole front cab is being rebuilt. After it is done though, other then regular resealing is there anything special to be done to help prevent leaks in the future?
The pre-1990 front caps leak around the front where it meets the sides and around the window. Almost every early LD I have inspected had signs of leakage in the front.
It is difficult to find all the leaks so all the exterior seams should be resealed.
Leak detection | Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lwade/sets/72157625671994909/)
Soon after buying our 1983 LD, the front window was thoroughly resealed, along with all the seams in the cap and roof.
This was before I had heard of Eternabond being used on RV roofs, instead, the seams were sealed with 3M 5200FC.
The 22' Twin/King models often have leakage and rot in the back corners, where the back and side windows meet.
Make sure all the roof seams are well sealed and that end caps are secure, before resealing their edges with 5200FC.
Also clean and reseal all the perimeter of the window frames. The rear windows are more prone to leakage than the side windows and the multi-piece rear window rubber moldings tend to shrink with age and eventually leak. The rubber can be sealed with a flowable silicone wind sealant made for this application.
Permatex® Flowable Silicone Windshield & Glass Sealer – Permatex (https://www.permatex.com/products/adhesives-sealants/sealants/permatex-flowable-silicone-windshield-glass-sealer/?locale=en_us)
Make sure the window drains are clean.
Larry
The pre-1990 front caps leak around the front where it meets the sides and around the window. Almost every early LD I have inspected had signs of leakage in the front.
It is difficult to find all the leaks so all the exterior seams should be resealed.
Leak detection | Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lwade/sets/72157625671994909/)
Soon after buying our 1983 LD, the front window was thoroughly resealed, along with all the seams in the cap and roof.
This was before I had heard of Eternabond being used on RV roofs, instead, the seams were sealed with 3M 5200FC.
The 22' Twin/King models often have leakage and rot in the back corners, where the back and side windows meet.
Make sure all the roof seams are well sealed and that end caps are secure, before resealing their edges with 5200FC.
Also clean and reseal all the perimeter of the window frames. The rear windows are more prone to leakage than the side windows and the multi-piece rear window rubber moldings tend to shrink with age and eventually leak. The rubber can be sealed with a flowable silicone wind sealant made for this application.
Permatex® Flowable Silicone Windshield & Glass Sealer – Permatex (https://www.permatex.com/products/adhesives-sealants/sealants/permatex-flowable-silicone-windshield-glass-sealer/?locale=en_us)
Make sure the window drains are clean.
Larry
Good info! Thank you
Here's on just listed today: https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/rvs/d/tumwater-foot-lazy-daze-for-sale/7192817711.html
2000 26 foot lazy daze for sale - $20,000
I emailed her that she could post on here.
This is Marta Brock’s rig.I thought she had advertised it on LDO; I recall a discussion on it a few weeks ago. And, I think that the mileage is correct.
This is Marta Brock’s rig.I thought she had advertised it on LDO; I recall a discussion on it a few weeks ago. And, I think that the mileage is correct.
Didn’t realize this was a member’s LD so I will remove my comment on pricing.
Just posted, a 2002 FD in Anaheim:
https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/rvs/d/anaheim-2002-lazy-daze-235-ft-front/7193749602.html
This new posting is from the Facebook marketplace- here's the link with lots of pictures
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/332742087839408
Location- Murrieta, Ca
Please note this is not my MB- just sharing what looks like a nicely maintained coach for a good value.
The ad-------------------------------------------------------------------
2006 lazy days 26ft 50Anniversary
Model Orig 55K miles like New
Hi I'm selling my beautiful 2006 lazy days 50 Anniversary edition 26.5FT Has original 55K miles on E450 Super duty chassis Triton V10 engine Runs excellent Fully self Contained
Equipped with 4K watt onan generator . With only 200 low hours Full size awning Plenty of outside storage Backup camera Tow package New tires Good batteries Central AC and heat Full size kitchen 3 way refrigerator freezer Stove/oven Microwave Dull sinks Plenty of real wood closet and cabinet space / Privacy door Rear full size King bed Top over head bunk sleeper Dianet also Fold in to bed Sleeps 8" Has extra table. Spacious bathroom Stand up shower Fantastic fan TV DVD stereo surround sound Very nice coach ready for traveling needs nothing Have all books and manuals up-to-date reg and Clean California Title Please call for more Info serious buyers only ready to buy.$36900
This new posting is from the Facebook marketplace- here's the link with lots of pictures
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/332742087839408
Location- Murrieta, Ca
Please note this is not my MB- just sharing what looks like a nicely maintained coach for a good value.
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2006 lazy days 26ft 50Anniversary
Model Orig 55K miles like New
Hi I'm selling my beautiful 2006 lazy days 50 Anniversary edition 26.5FT Has original 55K miles on E450 Super duty chassis Triton V10 engine Runs excellent Fully self Contained
Equipped with 4K watt onan generator . With only 200 low hours Full size awning Plenty of outside storage Backup camera Tow package New tires Good batteries Central AC and heat Full size kitchen 3 way refrigerator freezer Stove/oven Microwave Dull sinks Plenty of real wood closet and cabinet space / Privacy door Rear full size King bed Top over head bunk sleeper Dianet also Fold in to bed Sleeps 8" Has extra table. Spacious bathroom Stand up shower Fantastic fan TV DVD stereo surround sound Very nice coach ready for traveling needs nothing Have all books and manuals up-to-date reg and Clean California Title Please call for more Info serious buyers only ready to buy.$36900
Is about priced right?
Is about priced right?
If you look at the pricing guide on this forum (which is just a GUIDE, mind you), it’s priced a bit higher than what the guide indicates. However, this is a rare 50th Anniversary model which appear to be in very good condition so. . .
Fifteen months next week for me.
Dave, have you heard from LD yet?
One or more of the messages of this topic have been moved to Lazy Daze General Info & Discussions (https://www.lazydazeowners.com/index.php?board=3.0) since they were unrelated to 2021 pricing
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An update for those on the list as I just spoke to Todd. I got on the list in mid-August 2019 and Todd said I'm very close to the top. He took my address since he will be mailing a package soon. He did say that my order would be on the 2022 chassis.
Just to reiterate, the showroom is closed and they are not doing test drives. I think he said they do not have any floor models available yet.
Forgot to mention, if you are on the list and are NOT interested in the Ford driver assist technology package, you may be getting a call from Todd as he has a couple of chassis ready to build. He offered one to me but I told him that is something I wanted.
Greg, thanks for the updates. We are about a year behind you, which should put us in the timeframe we wanted delivery.
Jane
RV Trader sent this to me today. I guess I am still on their notification list for LD for sale.
Good luck.
Tony R (aka codefour)
Listed on Craigslist in Woodland Hills, CA (LA County)
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/rvs/d/woodland-hills-lazy-daze-rv/7223832934.html
2001 Lazy Daze Motorhome. Has 71,600 miles, engine runs strong and has no problem climbing steep grades. Just spent $2500 rebuilding the on board generator and now runs like brand new, apparently I wasn't running it enough. 7 new tires (including the spare). Added 2,000 watt sine wave inverter so you can plug in computers, etc that will run off the 2 brand new house batteries instead of having to run generator. Have always kept up servicing and have all records since purchased 7 years ago. Interior was updated with laminate floors, reupholstered couch, 2 captains chairs, and dinette. New upgraded stereo head unit and speakers. Rear view camera system included, but you will need to install. Airconditioner runs super cold, fridge works great as well. We have really babied this rig. Too many upgrades to list. Selling for $19,950 firm.
Not my ad, I'm just posting it for the group.
Craigslist San Diego
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/rvs/d/san-diego-2009-lazy-daze-24-ft/7219683384.html
2009 24 Front Lounge
Not my ad, just posting it for the group
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/rvs/d/vancouver-rv-food-truck-with-corvette/7211308615.html
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/rvs/d/vancouver-rv-food-truck-with-corvette/7211308615.html
That's cool! But it's an M-22 with a Chevy engine that you'd have to smog in California :(
Wonder what it weighs.
Charles
Not just any Chevy engine, a reconditioned Corvette engine...
Jon
Not just any Chevy engine, a reconditioned Corvette engine...
Jon
Yippee.
Charles
Another diesel LD in Washington state:
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/rvs/d/bonney-lake-2001-lazy-daze-26-diesel/7229515698.html
A 2005 MB in San Diego:
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/rvs/d/escondido-2005-lazy-daze-motorhome/7229798173.html
Just an update for those on the list. I spoke again with Todd yesterday. He actually called me and said someone with a 2021 chassis with the tech package had backed out and offered it to me. I told him we will hold off for the 2022 chassis which he expects will start arriving next year in February or March. By the way, he will be out of the office all of next week if you need to talk to him.
Just an update for those on the list. I spoke again with Todd yesterday. He actually called me and said someone with a 2021 chassis with the tech package had backed out and offered it to me. I told him we will hold off for the 2022 chassis which he expects will start arriving next year in February or March. By the way, he will be out of the office all of next week if you need to talk to him.
Curious as to why you are waiting for the 2022?
Curious as to why you are waiting for the 2022?
A couple reasons. The timing works out better for me, and I prefer not to get the first year of a new chassis. But the biggest reason is, 22 is my favorite number! 😆
Oh, and I’m still holding out hope that I can find a used unit before obligating for a new one.
YMMV!
Just an update for those on the list. I spoke again with Todd yesterday. He actually called me and said someone with a 2021 chassis with the tech package had backed out and offered it to me. I told him we will hold off for the 2022 chassis which he expects will start arriving next year in February or March. By the way, he will be out of the office all of next week if you need to talk to him.
Would it be possible to make sure my thinking is correct? When a customer's name makes its way to the top of the waitlist, an individual is able to put their order on hold. How long will the mother ship hold their order?
Would it be possible to make sure my thinking is correct? When a customer's name makes its way to the top of the waitlist, an individual is able to put their order on hold. How long will the mother ship hold their order?
Good question.
Initially we wanted to have delivery in Nov. 2019 and after receiving the package our plans change and factory accommodated our request to move the delivery to Nov 2020. I think chassis is ordered after you fill out the form and send your deposit. In our case, to show that we are serious thought we are delaying the delivery I sent the deposit anyway. I don't think sending a deposit earlier then needed made any difference though.
Would it be possible to make sure my thinking is correct? When a customer's name makes its way to the top of the waitlist, an individual is able to put their order on hold. How long will the mother ship hold their order?
It appears there is some flexibility on when you are able to take delivery. You may want to give Todd a call and ask specifics.
A question for the group: Are all the chassis LD acquires from Ford the same length when received, then extended by LD according to model need, or does Ford send different length chassis?
A question for the group: Are all the chassis LD acquires from Ford the same length when received, then extended by LD according to model need, or does Ford send different length chassis?
Greg, Ford manufactures the E450 Cutaway in two wheelbases; 158 and 176 inches. Lazy Daze buys both versions and has the 176 inch version extended to 211 inches for the 31' models. The 24' models use the 158 inch WB chassis and the 27' models use the 176 inch WB chassis.
Charles
A question for the group: Are all the chassis LD acquires from Ford the same length when received, then extended by LD according to model need, or does Ford send different length chassis?
Greg
Many answers to your questions are available right here on the forum.
Lazy Daze Pocket Guide (https://www.lazydazeowners.com/pocketguide/)
Check it out, it's interesting reading.
Larry
Thanks, Larry.
On the Pocket Guide splash page, the Specifications: 2019 link takes you to the 2021 spec sheet instead of the 2019 spec sheet on the LD website, so the moderators may want to update that.
Thanks, Larry.
On the Pocket Guide splash page, the Specifications: 2019 link takes you to the 2021 spec sheet instead of the 2019 spec sheet on the LD website, so the moderators may want to update that.
Thanks, Greg. I've asked Steve to fix this.
Chris
Greg, Ford manufactures the E450 Cutaway in two wheelbases; 158 and 176 inches. Lazy Daze buys both versions and has the 176 inch version extended to 211 inches for the 31' models. The 24' models use the 158 inch WB chassis and the 27' models use the 176 inch WB chassis.
Thanks, Charles. So the 31' model is the only one modified in house.
"So the 31' model is the only one modified in house."
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I'm not sure, but I don't think the stretching of the 176" wheelbase to 211" is done "in house"; you might want to ask Todd where LD has the chassis modified.
I'm not sure, but I don't think the stretching of the 176" wheelbase to 211" is done "in house"; you might want to ask Todd where LD has the chassis modified.
I agree; I always thought they contracted out the Ford chassis lengthening. When we used to visit we never saw anything that would lead to us thinking they did this in-house.
Charles
When ordering 31 IB November 2013, Todd said I had the last 2013 176" frame and he'd send it to the extender that week.
So they don't 'stretch' in-house.
joel
Thanks for clarifying. I thought they did it at the factory.
When ordering 31 IB November 2013, Todd said I had the last 2013 176" frame and he'd send it to the extender that week.
So they don't 'stretch' in-house.
LD uses a nearby fabricator to stretch the 176" frame, the same company that builds their towing hitch plates and other steel parts used in LDs
Stretching the frame is a complicated task, besides the frame, the brake lines, parking brake cables, fuel lines, emission lines, drive shaft and the electrical all need extending.
It requires a lot of specialized knowledge and tools.
Larry
"Stretching the frame is a complicated task,..."
And at the end of a work day or after a lunch break things can get overlooked. On my '04 30'IB, while having the 1st alignment at Henderson's Line Up, it was found that the rear 'U' bolts had not been torqued to spec., requiring a complete rear alignment prior to doing the front. :o
1989 for sale spotted in Newport Dunes
A 2012, 27 rear bath with 12k miles in Downey Ca. Listed on LA craigslist for 65k. Green and white.
A 2012, 27 rear bath with 12k miles in Downey Ca. Listed on LA craigslist for 65k. Green and white.
Yes, that’s Dale from Downey’s unit.
Here is a 2009 FD in San Diego:
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/rvs/d/san-diego-2009-lazy-daze-24-ft/7238360468.html
Beware of cl and rv trader 2009 23.5 front dinette, 60k miles, firm price of $55k in California.
I ask why he was firm on his price and show him the LD price guide....he went into this long email about how people were paying high prices because it was a hot market, he was happy to make such a good profit....he says he has maint records but would not send the details...he has owned it 3 or 4 years. Never garaged. Lots of road rash on lower Paint area....would not give
age of tires....lots of red flags....
Additional coments:
When an rv reaches 10 years or more you have to consider the roof needing to be resealed..LD estimated 4k plus (includes replacing roof components with plastic covers) seals and edge covers needing to be resealed. Or reseal components,edges only for alot less... The engine coolant system needs new radiator hoses, heater hoses, coolant reservoir,etc. If not you are sitting on a breakdown or engine replacement from overheating. The brake system if it hasn't been flushed every 2 years (moisture/condensation) in reservoir/lines, calipers, etc fluid which causes corrosion. Brakes lines start restricting fluid....my last had 3 brake flushes in 14 years but I had to replace pads, calipers, hubs, lines due to seizing calipers and brake lines. I look at the undercarriage because some folks travel on snow/salted roads...suspension parts, exhaust, mounting bolts, hitch etc can have rust building and it doesn't stop till you remove it and treat/ paint, repair...
This is just a few thing of many that you need to take into consideration.....Every system on the coach will need maint or repair by the next owner at some point . Just because the first or present owner hasn't. Because the first 40 to 70k miles on LD is typical not to have many issues. I spent 8k my first year on a 2004 garage kept, no rust unit with 60k miles with lots of preventive maint. Don't forget the spark plug issues. The older models..they recomend removing..replacing them at 8 year before they seize up....so when someone is asking 20k over what an rv should cost I walk away...LD 's are nice to own but don't be stupid and in denial about what it can cost to own one.
IMO He's asking $55K, and he will probably get it (or close to it) in this market if the unit is properly represented.
Depending.......On
Online Photographs. IMO online photos can be good, or bad. And we have found both to be true.
When we were in the market for our LD, we looked at every RV forum we could find online, phone calls, etc. Traveled twice to southern California and came home disappointed.
We looked at lot's of great LD photo's for sale online and were in love - that is until we made the actual in person inspection.
And twice I brought a cashier's check for units that I was certain were "the one" for us. Nada!
There is NO substitute for your eyes, ears, and smell to ascertain if this is "the one" for you. Even if you are inexperienced your senses usually announce if it looks, feels, tastes good. Trust these senses. Be prepared to walk immediately if you determine that anything is misrepresented.
And proceed from there. Are the photo's and spec sheets properly represented?
Sure, you will expend $ for the trip, and valuable time. Certainly and positively you will have an experienced (hopefully LD experienced) RV inspection completed before you shell out those hard dollars.
And I try to consider that many, or most sellers are good folks, just not sales persons. There will be immense suspension from both parties. It's not right or wrong, it's just the human experience.
We have found LD owners to be truly unique in this world of RVing. I don't know why, but know it is true. And unique in the best of terms.
So, continue your search and be hopeful. You WILL find the LD of your dreams for a price you can afford to start your LD adventure.
We spent more than we planned, and have never looked back. After all, how many more years do we have left to experience this Grand Adventure!
Most respectfully,
Tony R (aka codefour)
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/rvs/d/san-diego-2009-lazy-daze-24-ft/7238360468.html
Yeah, I've been watching this one for awhile. Something feels very wrong about this person. His photos are cropped as if to hide something. I asked him to send me some others but they didn't tell the whole story. Red flags for me.
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/rvs/d/san-diego-2009-lazy-daze-24-ft/7238360468.html
Yeah, I've been watching this one for awhile. Something feels very wrong about this person. His photos are cropped as if to hide something. I asked him to send me some others but they didn't tell the whole story. Red flags for me.
I have my 2019 24’ front dinette in the classified here and it is only 14 months old. Like new. Going to be advertising it on RVtrader. I am surprised I have not sold it yet as it is a good deal for someone looking for that model. Just comparing to this one being sold.
Angie
Middletown NJ
Hi Angie. I'm sorry to hear that you are selling your coach. As for it not being sold yet, a reminder that many of the members here already have motorhomes. Many looking for LD's aren't ready to part with the $$$ for an almost new one. Some people who are willing to spend that much are sort of waiting to see how the Virus situation shakes out, and many who are on the list are counting on some buffer time, to see how the economy and Virus situation proceed before they commit. I do know of a few people who have stepped in to buy almost new units at good prices. The 'grapevine' can be pretty slow at times.
In addition, selling the 'not as popular 24 foot', either FD or TK, again restricts the number of potential buyers. By far the majority sold are the 27 foot models (MB and RK). 24' floorplans about equal to 31' in number. Guesses on my part because LD doesn't release those numbers that I know of. Also sales in 'northern East' locations are slower this time of year than sales in warmer parts. Fewer people have ever heard of Lazy Daze at all, even in San Diego. After the loss of Born Free, I'm not sure if there even are small independents left. Nexus? Jayco was bought out years ago. I hope you connect with a real buyer soon, to your mutual benefit. RonB
Tony, I would have given you two likes for your post but couldn’t! 👍
Angie, I mostly agree with Ron but I don’t think you’ll have a problem selling a shorter unit since short seems to be in right now, especially with the younger crowds. I normally don’t like to comment on member’s sale pricing but I will say that I think yours is very fairly priced and I would not lower it unless you’re really motivated to get rid of it quickly. Best of luck to you!
Angie, I mostly agree with Ron but I don’t think you’ll have a problem selling a shorter unit since short seems to be in right now, especially with the younger crowds. I normally don’t like to comment on member’s sale pricing but I will say that I think yours is very fairly priced and I would not lower it unless you’re really motivated to get rid of it quickly. Best of luck to you!
Thank you for your comments. It has become the trend of people downsizing when they think of purchasing a RV. I think the size is great for two people and when we went on trips never thought I wished I had a larger one. I think the price is fair especially with all the options.
Angie
Here are the base prices for the 2021 models on the new Ford Chassis:
All 24' floor plans: $106,750 w/$3500 deposit.
All 27' floor Plans: $112,250 w/$4000 deposit
All 31' floorplans: $ 123,500 w/$4500 deposit
Attached is the pricing for the standard options. I had four additions for extra $$.
I looked on the LD site and as of 8-20 these are the prices for 2021
http://www.lazydaze.com/FEATURES.PDF
The price for each floor plan is 12,000 higher than than prices posted on their site as of 2-19 for 2019
Big jump
The big jump is Ford’s increase in their cost of chassis.
The 2022 pricing should be out in the next 2 to 3 months. I anticipate the jump will be quite a bit less than the one from 2019 to 2021.
The prices Mike listed were as of January 2020. The August 2020 prices are all $2500 more.
2000 Lazy Daze 26.5 MID-BATH, atlanta GA - 5014928026 - RVtrader.com
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2000-Lazy-Daze-26.5-MID-BATH-5014928026
Red and white , 60k miles, $29k
Looks nice!
https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/rvs/d/yorba-linda-lazy-daze/7249306448.html
$25K Yorba Linda, CA
'97 LAZY DAZE 26.5' ISLAND BED, 155,000 miles as described. First time I've seen this type of layout.
*Not my ad, just posting it for the group.
"First time I've seen this type of layout."
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The last model year for the 26.5' Island Bed was 2005.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in the 26.5 Island Bed the seat next to the entry will extend in front of the door to make it more of a loveseat. A kind person in the Lazy Daze Caravan Club let me take a tour of theirs. Pretty cool layout!
"I believe in the 26.5 Island Bed the seat next to the entry will extend in front of the door to make it more of a loveseat."
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It does; no in or out when the seat is in front of the entry door, but the layout is handy for four people for dinner! ;)
Topic is locked and 2021 "finds" have their own new topic Non-member Classified Listings for 2021 (https://www.lazydazeowners.com/index.php?topic=35983.0)