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Title: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: Tina Pratt on February 21, 2018, 06:09:31 pm
Our dinette table (2006 MB) has had the trim which goes around the tabletop separate at a seam.  I figure the seam is "too soon" before/after the curve.  This seam is only about a 1/4" from the curve and now the two edges have separated with one edge still flat and the other separated from the table and the rest of the trim.

Any ideas/practical suggestions/experience with this repair.  No duct tape, please!

TinaP
2006 MB "Wild Thing"
Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: Larry W on February 21, 2018, 06:52:40 pm
Tina

It's called T-molding and is available in a variety of widths and colors.
You need 1" wood grain  T-molding, in the color of  your choice.
It is available from many sources.
Plastic T-Molding: Woodgrain (https://www.t-molding.com/t-molding-woodgrain.html).

The table has a grove that the T-molding is glued into. The plastic T-molding shrinks with age.
The old T-molding can be gently pried out, for replacement.

Larry
Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: Lazy Bones on February 21, 2018, 09:32:50 pm
"The table has a grove that the T-molding is glued into."

I knew that that stuff existed but did not know what it was called, nor where to find it. Thanks Larry!   :)
Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: RonB on February 21, 2018, 11:06:19 pm
Hi Tina. So if you push the 'T' molding, that has popped out of the groove, does it go back in? About how big is the gap to the piece that is still in the table?  I have used white Gorilla glue, fast cure. Its polyurethane. 'Fast cure" means about 2 hours. Water clean up, but nothing touches it once it sets up.  RonB 
Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: Tina Pratt on February 22, 2018, 12:46:52 pm
Ron and Larry...Thanks so much for both of your recommendations.  Ron, I can walk the trim back into the groove and when I've done so the gap is a tenth of an inch or less.  If it's flat into the groove and against the table, I think I can live with this.  Did you clamp it until it dried?

TinaP
2006 MB "Wild Thing"
Warming Up in Florida
Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: RonB on February 22, 2018, 06:18:00 pm
Hi Tina. Yes I had bar clamps long enough to span the table. I used a small piece (5") of 1x2 to spread the force applied. I didn't want a permanent clamp impression in the plastic. Ok, now for what I would really do.... I'm picky and a tenth of an inch is too wide for me. The mothership just stretched the trim around corners. On my friends MB the piece going down, to the floor, at the 'towards the cab' part of the dinette had come away up to the bend. I pulled more away to expose the curve. Cleaned whatever glue they had used. Cut pie shaped pieces out of the 'T' base part that goes in the slot, so it would bend easier. Then I put some water in the wood slot, just damp, per the instructions for the glue. Warmed the vinyl plastic with a heat gun carefully, just warm to the touch. Mostly at the bend. Applied glue sparingly. Inserted in the slot (I have a rubber mallet). Taped with blue painters tape, then clamped it with a foot or so long piece of 1x2. A bar clamp wouldn't work, so I jammed a piece of 2x4 with padding against the cabinet opposite on the aisle. I left it for the night. I trimmed some glue that oozed out with an Exacto knife. I'm not sure why but the plastic did stretch out a little and I cut off just a little right at the floor. (about a 1/16"). So maybe a little warmth and stretching could fill up that tenth of an inch gap.
   Last Caravan club meeting I noticed the start of a crack in the middle of the radius of the 'T' edge molding on my table that folds down in my TK. So I'm expecting that to eventually separate. Somebody here at LDOF ended up buying the minimum quantity of 250 feet, and had extra. I think the wrong color for me. But I can see that maybe happening to me. Best regards. RonB. I'll be in space 92 at Morro Bay. See you there?
Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: Larry W on February 22, 2018, 06:26:17 pm
A strap clamp or ratchet strap, around the perimeter of the table, should hold the molding tight around the corners, until the adhesive cures.

Amazon.com: Pittsburgh 66220 1" x 15' Ratcheting Band Clamp: Home Improvement (https://www.amazon.com/Pittsburgh-66220-Ratcheting-Band-Clamp/dp/B006ZBCU1A?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=ad-backfill-s-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B006ZBCU1A)
Amazon.com: Ratchet Strap, Ohuhu Ratchet Tie Downs Logistic Straps - 4 Pack... (https://www.amazon.com/Ratchet-Strap-Ohuhu-Logistic-Straps/dp/B01G30J8JY?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=ad-backfill-s-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01G30J8JY)

Larry
Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: Lazy Bones on February 22, 2018, 08:34:08 pm
"A strap clamp or ratchet strap, around the perimeter of the table,..."

All well and good Larry, but what does one do when the table is not free standing? My dinette table is screwed to the wall on one end and, no, I am not going to remove those screws. It took a trip to the factory to have it done properly the last time it came loose.   ::)
Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: Larry W on February 22, 2018, 10:14:43 pm
"A strap clamp or ratchet strap, around the perimeter of the table,..."

All well and good Larry, but what does one do when the table is not free standing? My dinette table is screwed to the wall on one end and, no, I am not going to remove those screws. It took a trip to the factory to have it done properly the last time it came loose.  ::)

Tina owns a MB, in which table is removable, so the dinette can be converted into a bed.
Remove the table from the wall and then clamp it.
Don't remember how your table is attached but I bet it too can be removed, LD had to mount it somehow. I bet they do it with screws.

Larry

Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: Tina Pratt on February 23, 2018, 08:51:11 am
Thanks again, Ron and Larry.

Will be missing Morro Bay; we are doing the FL thing this winter, but hope to make the trip to the West Coast next trek out which will begin in October 2018, unless the goddesses have other plans for us.

TinaP
2006 MB "Wild Thing"
Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: tlbh2o on February 23, 2018, 09:36:26 am
Hi Tina,
The perfectionist are talking clamps to hold the molding in place while glue sets,  great idea but if you don't already own them they can be an unnecessary expense.  I know you don't want duct or masking tape as a permanent fixture but it can be used in place  of clamps just until the glue cures.  I would just be careful pulling the tape off so that you aren't pulling the t-molding back out again. 
tlbh2o
Title: Re: Dinette Table Repair...Help!
Post by: Lazy Bones on February 23, 2018, 10:53:19 am
Larry

"...LD had to mount it somehow. I bet they do it with screws."

Your quite correct! However, when original it had a hinge so that the table could be raised up (for whatever reasons I do not know as there never has been a fastener to hold it up). Over time and vibration those screws worked themselves loose. I had the "RV Guy" (can't remember his name) reattach the table, sans hinge, using a long piece of aluminum angle stock. I suspect but did not confirm that Vince may have dismounted that table to facilitate replacement of my fridge last summer. At any rate, it's not something I can or want to do.   ::)